[Server] Liberty Land (rbose.org)

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Re: [Server] Liberty Land (rbose.org)

by Sokomine » Sun Jul 08, 2018 13:19

micheal65536 wrote:Firstly, my post does make sense to anyone who bothers to read it properly. I'm assuming that you [Out`Of`Control] read my post as well as you read your server logs (i.e. evidently not very well at all). If you cannot follow a post that is clearly set out in grammatically-correct english, with paragraphs to separate each point and a full logical explanation from point to conclusion in each paragraph, then I doubt that you have the reasoning or comprehension ability to successfully assess the situations that you face when running and moderating a server.

You're right about *your* posting. However, "with paragraphs to seperate each point" is certainly nothing which can be said about the OP's posting. He either wasn't capable of adding them or didn't bother. Either way - it does not speak well for barrier-free communication in any written medium. And MT is that in multiplayer chat. And even native speakers who do invest time and effort in what and how they say something may encounter misunderstandings. That's just human nature - weather we like it or not.

micheal65536 wrote: (Actually, it's completely apparent from how you incorrectly applied the "no dating" rule to the OP's dating in real life.)

Hmm. I wouldn't be so sure of that. Certainly, an "x is my RL girlfriend/husband/wife/brother/sister/..." ought to be no problem on any server. However, if a couple where to flirt extensively in public chat, that might be inappropriate on a server with a no dating rule. Just...not the right place for it. We don't know what exactly happened on the Liberty Land server.

Rayezrr wrote:she was eavesdropping on us speaking to other personal friends

How so? Did you use /msg or public chat? That's a huge difference. Anyone can listen in public chat. Eavesdropping on private /msgs would be worriesome. It is not unheared of on servers but fortunately extremly rare.

Rayezrr wrote:decided to come into our home unannounced

I do that as well. It's more an attitude and what you consider valuable in MT. For me, it's not the stuff in chests or something - but what people have built. My own creations are for others to enjoy, and depriving others of visiting their houses and enjoying what they've built would be very impolite. Locked doors are useful only as decoration (annoying enough that they can't be opened by all; but a cellar door sometimes just has to look like a steel door) or for protecting very tiny rooms where machines do not respect protection (furnaces, in the past).

Rayezrr wrote:sift through our chests

Did you use locked chests? What type of chests was it? You can see that by pressing F5 and pointing with the mouse to the chest. That shows amongst other information the node name of the chest. Some mods provide chests that can be accessed by all those who can build in a certain area.

Rayezrr wrote:tried telling us that we had to break up in real life

Sounds very much like you had a major misunderstanding there? Certainly anyone above youngest child would know that that's nobody elses business.

Rayezrr wrote:kill our only horse,

If the mobs are based on mobs_redo (which is very likely), there ought to be a craftable name tag which can be used to give animals names. There might also be a mob protection rune which protects the mob from attacks from other players. If it doesn't exist on the server it ought to be installed. Maybe your "visitor" thought the animal was a wild one. Some players kill friendly mobs for their meat.

Rayezrr wrote: break 2 blocks in the stable,

There's obviously something wrong with the protection then. Please check that! Helping there is also something moderators are good for. I'm sure there're other moderators apart from the one you didn't get along with well.

Rayezrr wrote:i typed in chat verbatim; "waiting on an apology from texture for stealing from us and killing our horse"

And what if that accusation was wrong? The moderator's not the only one to suffer from a misunderstanding/wrong accusation due to coincidence - you might as well. How'd you react to such a claim if it's unjustified?
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Re: [Server] Liberty Land (rbose.org)

by Stix » Sun Jul 08, 2018 15:59

Out`Of`Control wrote:Taa0613 was not texture, nor did that player had any extra privileges.

Are you one of those trolls that join Liberty Land, then ask players to join hometown?
I have seen most moderators from hometown doing that.
This explains everything.

You did not show any fact only BS.

Interesting how you turn to personal attacks and assumptions when you realize you have no valid arguments to bring to the table. Your also the only one here spouting BS, so please think carefully before the next time you post.
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Re: [Server] Liberty Land (rbose.org)

by Out`Of`Control » Sun Jul 08, 2018 16:07

Stix wrote:
Out`Of`Control wrote:Taa0613 was not texture, nor did that player had any extra privileges.

Are you one of those trolls that join Liberty Land, then ask players to join hometown?
I have seen most moderators from hometown doing that.
This explains everything.

You did not show any fact only BS.

Interesting how you turn to personal attacks and assumptions when you realize you have no valid arguments to bring to the table. Your also the only one here spouting BS, so please think carefully before the next time you post.


Out`Of`Control wrote:texture did not kill any horse or stole anything.
I do not care you believe me or not.
Whole thing is based upon a lie.
Further arguing is useless. And your post does not make any sense..
 

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Re: [Server] Liberty Land (rbose.org)

by Out`Of`Control » Sun Jul 08, 2018 16:36

Sokomine wrote:
micheal65536 wrote:Firstly, my post does make sense to anyone who bothers to read it properly. I'm assuming that you [Out`Of`Control] read my post as well as you read your server logs (i.e. evidently not very well at all). If you cannot follow a post that is clearly set out in grammatically-correct english, with paragraphs to separate each point and a full logical explanation from point to conclusion in each paragraph, then I doubt that you have the reasoning or comprehension ability to successfully assess the situations that you face when running and moderating a server.

You're right about *your* posting. However, "with paragraphs to seperate each point" is certainly nothing which can be said about the OP's posting. He either wasn't capable of adding them or didn't bother. Either way - it does not speak well for barrier-free communication in any written medium. And MT is that in multiplayer chat. And even native speakers who do invest time and effort in what and how they say something may encounter misunderstandings. That's just human nature - weather we like it or not.

micheal65536 wrote: (Actually, it's completely apparent from how you incorrectly applied the "no dating" rule to the OP's dating in real life.)

Hmm. I wouldn't be so sure of that. Certainly, an "x is my RL girlfriend/husband/wife/brother/sister/..." ought to be no problem on any server. However, if a couple where to flirt extensively in public chat, that might be inappropriate on a server with a no dating rule. Just...not the right place for it. We don't know what exactly happened on the Liberty Land server.

Rayezrr wrote:she was eavesdropping on us speaking to other personal friends

How so? Did you use /msg or public chat? That's a huge difference. Anyone can listen in public chat. Eavesdropping on private /msgs would be worriesome. It is not unheared of on servers but fortunately extremly rare.

Rayezrr wrote:decided to come into our home unannounced

I do that as well. It's more an attitude and what you consider valuable in MT. For me, it's not the stuff in chests or something - but what people have built. My own creations are for others to enjoy, and depriving others of visiting their houses and enjoying what they've built would be very impolite. Locked doors are useful only as decoration (annoying enough that they can't be opened by all; but a cellar door sometimes just has to look like a steel door) or for protecting very tiny rooms where machines do not respect protection (furnaces, in the past).

Rayezrr wrote:sift through our chests

Did you use locked chests? What type of chests was it? You can see that by pressing F5 and pointing with the mouse to the chest. That shows amongst other information the node name of the chest. Some mods provide chests that can be accessed by all those who can build in a certain area.

Rayezrr wrote:tried telling us that we had to break up in real life

Sounds very much like you had a major misunderstanding there? Certainly anyone above youngest child would know that that's nobody elses business.

Rayezrr wrote:kill our only horse,

If the mobs are based on mobs_redo (which is very likely), there ought to be a craftable name tag which can be used to give animals names. There might also be a mob protection rune which protects the mob from attacks from other players. If it doesn't exist on the server it ought to be installed. Maybe your "visitor" thought the animal was a wild one. Some players kill friendly mobs for their meat.

Rayezrr wrote: break 2 blocks in the stable,

There's obviously something wrong with the protection then. Please check that! Helping there is also something moderators are good for. I'm sure there're other moderators apart from the one you didn't get along with well.

Rayezrr wrote:i typed in chat verbatim; "waiting on an apology from texture for stealing from us and killing our horse"

And what if that accusation was wrong? The moderator's not the only one to suffer from a misunderstanding/wrong accusation due to coincidence - you might as well. How'd you react to such a claim if it's unjustified?


Item was stolen from open chest by Taa0613 then Taa0613 killed a horse. After they start blaming texture.

Those 2 acted really rude to texture before this incident, if it was me i would have banned them for a week only for bad language and role play. Adults with small kids play on Liberty Land.

Now they make things up that never happen.
 

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Re: [Server] Liberty Land (rbose.org)

by Sokomine » Sun Jul 08, 2018 16:49

Out`Of`Control wrote:Now they make things up that never happen.

It seems like they experienced the situation differently. Based on the initial posting, a misunderstanding seems highly likely to me. Lack of knowledge about the game may also lead to confusion.
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Re: [Server] Liberty Land (rbose.org)

by Krock » Tue Jul 10, 2018 17:33

Hello there. I came for a short visit and found some mods that should be updated due to their potential of being abused:
3d_armor (item duplication, item stealth)
unified_inventory (item duplication)
minetest_game (infinite items)
bitchange (selling worn-out tools)

The best would be to update all mods - just to be sure.
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