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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by ChimneySwift » Sat Sep 08, 2018 09:49

micheal65536 wrote:grep or some other kind of script appropriate for the format of the data?


The server uses sauth IIRC so you could probably whip up a script to check, but if it's been 6 months it's unlikely the data would be saved :/

BTW, am I the only one that's unable to connect to the server?
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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by micheal65536 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:11

ChimneySwift wrote:BTW, am I the only one that's unable to connect to the server?

No. The server appears to be down at the moment (actually down, not just hung).
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by ExeterDad » Sat Sep 08, 2018 13:44

micheal65536 wrote:
ChimneySwift wrote:BTW, am I the only one that's unable to connect to the server?

No. The server appears to be down at the moment (actually down, not just hung).

Yeah down. I forgot yesterday was the due date for the bill. It should be back shortly. Sorry guys.
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by BBmine » Wed Sep 12, 2018 01:52

ExeterDad wrote:
micheal65536 wrote:
ChimneySwift wrote:BTW, am I the only one that's unable to connect to the server?

No. The server appears to be down at the moment (actually down, not just hung).

Yeah down. I forgot yesterday was the due date for the bill. It should be back shortly. Sorry guys.

The guys over at Rigs of Rods forgot once, and their host wiped the server.
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by micheal65536 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 16:10

BBmine wrote:
ExeterDad wrote:
micheal65536 wrote:No. The server appears to be down at the moment (actually down, not just hung).

Yeah down. I forgot yesterday was the due date for the bill. It should be back shortly. Sorry guys.

The guys over at Rigs of Rods forgot once, and their host wiped the server.

I'm assuming that ExeterDad has fixed and tested the backup script. I don't know if that's a reasonable assumption to make or not.
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by BBmine » Wed Sep 12, 2018 21:34

ExeterDad wrote:Backups? We need to backup?
lol

Our poor 5400 rpm laptop drives can't keep up with map saving enabled.
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by ChimneySwift » Wed Sep 12, 2018 22:15

AWS can do really cheap offsite backups IIRC, especially if you're talking ~60GB, for HDD storage that's nothing.
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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by Melchior » Wed Sep 19, 2018 22:13

It would be nice to know WHEN / IF Hoppers will ever be re-enabled. Some of us DID use 'em.

Also Updated Hoppers using one of the well-designed mods would be great; https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=20058
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by Lone_Wolf » Thu Sep 20, 2018 01:32

Melchior wrote:It would be nice to know WHEN / IF Hoppers will ever be re-enabled. Some of us DID use 'em.

Also Updated Hoppers using one of the well-designed mods would be great; https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=20058

He uses that mod. Or we have sorters at least
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by ExeterDad » Thu Sep 20, 2018 09:59

I can promise you one thing. We will not be converting to yet another Hoppers mod again. We started off with the one by Tenlus1. Then we moved to burli's version that worked using LBM and node timers (it also added the sorter). But since that broke all our eleventy-billion original hoppers and side hoppers, I "combined" the two mods which was a rewrite from heck. Plus conversion code, and code to prevent destroying the content of written books was created.
Our current version includes "chutes". They are simply named "side hoppers" as they identical to the side hoppers from the original version.

Also hoppers are disabled until I'm ready to turned them back on. I would of thought the message they emitted when you tried to place would of helped you to understand why they were disabled?
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by Fixer » Thu Sep 20, 2018 15:14

When it ends up just like with those memes about programming languages...
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by pangland » Sat Sep 22, 2018 07:43

Hello everyone, here comes my third garden, "The euro Garden". It located near the east of spawn. Unlike my other gardens, The euro Garden is aims for providing a lovely home which near the spawn for those new to HT and avoiding them get lost at remote/unknown areas.

All houses are FREE to those new players who are well behaved in HT. There are only a single rule for residents in this garden, which is the house style should be build/remains in classic euro style.

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by micheal65536 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 14:35

ExeterDad wrote:I can promise you one thing. We will not be converting to yet another Hoppers mod again. We started off with the one by Tenlus1. Then we moved to burli's version that worked using LBM and node timers (it also added the sorter). But since that broke all our eleventy-billion original hoppers and side hoppers, I "combined" the two mods which was a rewrite from heck. Plus conversion code, and code to prevent destroying the content of written books was created.
Our current version includes "chutes". They are simply named "side hoppers" as they identical to the side hoppers from the original version.

Also hoppers are disabled until I'm ready to turned them back on. I would of thought the message they emitted when you tried to place would of helped you to understand why they were disabled?

Well, no working hoppers means that there is actually currently no way for players to exchange or deliver items when someone is offline (except for the mailboxes at spawn, which not everyone has or is aware of and which are limited to one box for everything).

It appears to me, by the way, that there is a bug in the LBM/node timer version (at least the one that I saw) where there is an ABM that is (unnecessarily and erroneously) continuously re-starting the node timer. This probably creates a lot of unnecessary lag.
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by ExeterDad » Sat Sep 22, 2018 19:18

micheal65536 wrote:It appears to me, by the way, that there is a bug in the LBM/node timer version (at least the one that I saw) where there is an ABM <--snip-->

There are no ABM's used in our hoppers mod. It's the only reason I broke away from Tenplus1's version. Our timers are started with LBM, then they restart themselves after each run.
When profiling, Hoppers show very little in the results. As you know there are some VERY large hopper farms out there. And many of them. So even though the profiler isn't seeing the load, it has to be somewhere. Each node fires several times a second (at least 2), the code is looking for neighboring hoppers, side_hoppers, and several chestlike nodes. It's also looking above for dropped entities to pull into it. Each node it finds, it's comparing the found nodes inventory, to it's own and transferring and comparing again. This shows up in perf top as heavy and constant deserialization. So I disabled hoppers to see if it increased performance. I didn't remove the mod as I didn't want players to be concerned with massive farms of unkown nodes, or unknown knodes in the inventory.
As it turns out, there didn't seem to be any improvement with the hoppers disabled. I continue to test and make changes and choose to keep whatever overhead hoppers contributes OFF so it doesn't muck up whatever data I'm able to collect.
The hoppers will be back. The timers will likely fire a bit slower, and likely with a random time to insure they aren't all firing at the same moment.
This lag does not occur at my dev server, running 100% the exact mods, code, minetest and database (and machine) as the regular server.
It also doesn't seem to occur until we have at least 8-10 players on. I can't create that kind of load on the dev server so I'm forced to test on the live server (which I'm not a fan of). I also have to consider ihrFussels discovery that somehow "some" clients can hang a server during the duration of their login. I've yet to find the common denominator. And I've been watching heavily and logging extra data even heavier.

And yeah... I've been ingame building road, lot's of road. My tool involves constant and fast clicking. It depends on a response from the server so I can feel how often the lag occurs, and how long the delay is. It's painful.
But even still... There is enough road down that you can now drive a minecart from the Southern map edge, to the Northern map edge. That's a lot of tool clicking.
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by micheal65536 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 09:43

ExeterDad wrote:The hoppers will be back. The timers will likely fire a bit slower, and likely with a random time to insure they aren't all firing at the same moment.

That's good to know. I was worried that this was going to end up like the mailboxes did.

ExeterDad wrote:This lag does not occur at my dev server, running 100% the exact mods, code, minetest and database (and machine) as the regular server.
It also doesn't seem to occur until we have at least 8-10 players on. I can't create that kind of load on the dev server so I'm forced to test on the live server (which I'm not a fan of). I also have to consider ihrFussels discovery that somehow "some" clients can hang a server during the duration of their login. I've yet to find the common denominator. And I've been watching heavily and logging extra data even heavier.

Interesting. The lag seems to be gone at the moment though so personally I would simply try re-enabling things one at a time until it comes back. Or try enabling one thing and see if the lag comes back, if it doesn't then disable that thing again and enable another thing, and so on. It might take a week or so between each enabling/disabling and the next one to properly determine if the lag is back or not though. I play regularly so if you want me to let you know if it's lagging at any particular time then I can.
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by lprchaum_ » Sun Sep 23, 2018 17:19

Lag is back. For the few past weeks there has been no lag but today I've experienced lag with chests and inventory. Just wanted to inform if there has been something turned on lately.
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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by KatzEyez » Sat Sep 29, 2018 14:05

Quick question. I'm back on again since going on a six month LOA from the game. I had already been aware of the crash that took out the server - my stuff was lost apparently, but that's ok. I'm rebuilding in a new area and am ok, other than one thing's still "wrong". ;) Just a minor thing really - my skin. May I please get a skin added? I had one before.

Idk if you have the original LadyK skin still, but I made up a new one. This is the "converted" image for MT.

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by Fixer » Sun Oct 07, 2018 21:04

It is just me, or there is quite a delay when digging blocks and such? Ping was about 200ms and max_lag at 1.7-2, felt worse this time.
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by BBmine » Mon Oct 08, 2018 13:08

Fixer wrote:It is just me, or there is quite a delay when digging blocks and such? Ping was about 200ms and max_lag at 1.7-2, felt worse this time.

I don't think it's just you.
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by lprchaum_ » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:42

Apparently it is down. Scheduled downtime or a surprise?
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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by BBmine » Tue Oct 09, 2018 13:45

lprchaum_ wrote:Apparently it is down. Scheduled downtime or a surprise?

Just noticed that you can't ping the website. I guess someone forgot to pay the monthly bill.
 

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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by lprchaum_ » Tue Oct 09, 2018 13:52

BBmine wrote:
lprchaum_ wrote:Apparently it is down. Scheduled downtime or a surprise?

Just noticed that you can't ping the website. I guess someone forgot to pay the monthly bill.


Wow, it's actually the same time of the month so this theory makes sense.
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Re: [Server] HOMETOWN

by Chem871 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 00:45

I've gotten rid of all my protection blocks at my home, and anyone who wants to take stuff can do so as they please! I'm leaving the server, but coming back as Mettaton_NEO. I've put all my valuables in the chests at spawn.
 

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