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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 05:22
by webdesigner97
Josh wrote:Redcrab needs to update this server to 0.4.7, with a brand new map.

Why a new map? Most people will be very unhappy if all their work is gone...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 07:19
by CraigyDavi
Claire wrote:Hey guys watch this!

http://youtu.be/ifvjEgz71zY

Its a video I made to help promote this server in hope to bring more players to not just this server but to the entire Minetest community.

Please excuse the bad frame rate.

I have been thinking about starting a Minetest lets play. Tell me what you think! Hope you enjoy the video! x)


Love the video! Must have taken a long time :)
You could upload it to Vimeo or some other website so people in Germany ect. can watch it!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 07:21
by CraigyDavi
Josh wrote:Redcrab needs to update this server to 0.4.7, with a brand new map.


Yes update it to 0.4.7 But not a new map!!! All our work will be gone!!!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:54
by Evergreen
Josh wrote:Redcrab needs to update this server to 0.4.7, with a brand new map.
Please not a brand new map. D:

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 14:50
by Sokomine
A new map would be a very bad idea. There are so many good and impressive buildings on the map that would else get lost. If new features are added, there ought to be crafting receipes for them (i.e. jungletree saplings - those would be great!). There's still no sight of Redcrab.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 15:19
by CraigyDavi
Sokomine wrote:A new map would be a very bad idea. There are so many good and impressive buildings on the map that would else get lost. If new features are added, there ought to be crafting receipes for them (i.e. jungletree saplings - those would be great!). There's still no sight of Redcrab.



It would be cool if there was a way to grab the data of specific block/buildings and then you could move them to the new map. But untill that happens then NOOO NEW MAP D;

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 15:32
by Sokomine
Such a "grab data from one map and transfer it to another" method would be great. It may even be pretty easy to implement - after all, most that would be required would be to rewrite indices in a database and transfer the data to another one. The trouble is that identifying the chunks you want to transfer is a bit...difficult. If you have any ideas regarding that, please tell us (maybe in an extra topic).

For this particular server, however, such a method would be useless. The map of Redcrabs server is huge! Not only in data size (that would be less of a problem), but also in area covered and amount of good buildings. What could be dropped would be scenery where players only ran along to grab papyrus and clay. Provided those chunks could be identified.

Joining maps/transfering good buildings to a new map is something of intrest for much smaller servers. Some of them may do with worldedit. Some have a slightly larger map and might profit from a map-copy-program.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 15:37
by webdesigner97
Well, it might be possible to bring buildings to new maps. IMO the main problem is to intergrate the old buildings into the new landscape. For example Soko's crafting school: Some parts of it a re under earth, now if you copy it to a new map, some parts which have been under earth then are above earth, and vice-versa. Many buildings are just too much integrated into the landscape around them.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 20:51
by Claire
Josh wrote:Redcrab needs to update this server to 0.4.7, with a brand new map.


NO! Not a new map! Then my video will be a complete waste! D:

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 22:32
by ch98
Making new map will waist one of the best and maybe the biggest map existing in the minetest community. Also, it is more then 10GB so redcrab will not make anywhere to download. For most people, this map is the only reason they play on this server. So NEVER delete this map. also, redcrab clearly said that he has enough space for the map and there will be way more if we delete the test server so I see no reason to ever delete this map.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 02:57
by Josh
The map is very big, it is around 10GB which is alot, this dose cause lag problems.
I suppose we could just save all of the important parts with worldedit.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 17:22
by ch98
Josh wrote:The map is very big, it is around 10GB which is alot, this dose cause lag problems.
I suppose we could just save all of the important parts with worldedit.

This map is big but there is exact copy of this map a while ago in port 30402, taking up more than 10GB. If there was players on there, it would cause some lag too so I think resetting or shutting down other very unused server by redcrab will help make lag smaller. Also, there is countless buildings spread around everywhere so it may take very long time to copy all buildings. if we miss anything, someone is going to be mad.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 22:49
by coffeecrafter
am I dreaming or do they update the map?!? Must be dreaming, but I can already see my suspension bridge north of Desert City - whoooaa keep going guys you doing great! Can't wait to find my other buildings

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 23:28
by irreverent
coffeecrafter wrote:am I dreaming or do they update the map?!? Must be dreaming, but I can already see my suspension bridge north of Desert City - whoooaa keep going guys you doing great! Can't wait to find my other buildings

They updated the central map. I can see my house (well my space station and half of my house) and the railway. They did not update the north map; the railway is not visible on that one. I am not sure about the other seven regions.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 01:46
by ch98
There is most chance redcrab will pay attention today or sometime soon. Because of privacy issues, I can not tell you why I know this, but he should have remembered us by 9/15/2013. At 26-Aug-2013 20:48:40 EDT, there was the most chance he remembered about existence of minetest. This is just an simple guess so do not rely on this information.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 07:44
by CraigyDavi
What does it mean when the map updates!?
Does it mean the buildings and everything get destroyed?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 08:08
by AspireMint
CraigyDavi wrote:What does it mean when the map updates!?
Does it mean the buildings and everything get destroyed?


redcrab wrote:...
Generated Map and world regions
Current map with the 9 regions (wholly updated every 9 days)click here for full scale
each region:
"North-West" 2880x2880 above left of central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.5.png
"North" 2880x2880 above central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.1.png
"North-East" 2880x2880 above right of central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.6.png
"West" 2880x2880 left to central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.3.png
"Central" 2880x2880 http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.0.png
"East" 2880x2880 right to central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.4.png
"South-West" 2880x2880 below left of central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.7.png
"South" 2880x2880 below central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.2.png
"South-East" 2880x2880 below right of central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.8.png

...

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 08:13
by CraigyDavi
AspireMint wrote:
CraigyDavi wrote:What does it mean when the map updates!?
Does it mean the buildings and everything get destroyed?


redcrab wrote:...
Generated Map and world regions
Current map with the 9 regions (wholly updated every 9 days)click here for full scale
each region:
"North-West" 2880x2880 above left of central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.5.png
"North" 2880x2880 above central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.1.png
"North-East" 2880x2880 above right of central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.6.png
"West" 2880x2880 left to central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.3.png
"Central" 2880x2880 http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.0.png
"East" 2880x2880 right to central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.4.png
"South-West" 2880x2880 below left of central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.7.png
"South" 2880x2880 below central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.2.png
"South-East" 2880x2880 below right of central region http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.8.png

...


Ah okay. I thought when it generates in means a new map D:

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:50
by cactuz_pl
CraigyDavi wrote:Ah okay. I thought when it generates in means a new map D:


Nope, new map image.


ch98 wrote:There is most chance redcrab will pay attention today or sometime soon. Because of privacy issues, I can not tell you why I know this, but he should have remembered us by 9/15/2013. At 26-Aug-2013 20:48:40 EDT, there was the most chance he remembered about existence of minetest. This is just an simple guess so do not rely on this information.


That's right.

ch98 wrote:there was the most chance he remembered about existence of minetest.


Or not, this would be the end. But, we have to optimistic.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 18:06
by ch98
cactuz_pl wrote:
CraigyDavi wrote:Ah okay. I thought when it generates in means a new map D:


Nope, new map image.


ch98 wrote:There is most chance redcrab will pay attention today or sometime soon. Because of privacy issues, I can not tell you why I know this, but he should have remembered us by 9/15/2013. At 26-Aug-2013 20:48:40 EDT, there was the most chance he remembered about existence of minetest. This is just an simple guess so do not rely on this information.


That's right.

ch98 wrote:there was the most chance he remembered about existence of minetest.


Or not, this would be the end. But, we have to optimistic.

Next chance for this will be around 15/9/2018 is what I remember.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 20:29
by Inocudom
We need oOChainLynxOo to play on this server again. Ever since his activity with Minetest lowered, community activity itself lowered.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 20:44
by ch98
we always need that kind of person and not much exists.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 22:30
by eurito100
i will not be on in a couple of day im having tech probs so dont think im gone forever~Reverand

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 01:26
by eurito100
OK IM NOW BACK ON THE SERVER ANYONE WANNA TLK ILL BE ON

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 02:58
by Josh
Inocudom wrote:We need oOChainLynxOo to play on this server again. Ever since his activity with Minetest lowered, community activity itself lowered.

Chainlynx has started playing on this server again a few weeks ago.
If you look on his YT channel, he has started playing MC again.