[Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

sofar
Developer
 
Posts: 1168
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 07:31
GitHub: sofar
IRC: sofar
In-game: sofar

[Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by sofar » Sat Sep 02, 2017 19:36

Nore and Sofar present:

Inside the Box - A Puzzle Server

A Minetest (version 0.4.16 only!) Puzzle server where you can create, share and play puzzle maps.

The server features a unique system that allows players to create their own puzzle boxes using a system of mechanic and logic nodes and share them with everyone.

Please visit our Official website - http://minetest.foo-projects.org. On our website you will find updated lists of boxes, player rankings, builder rankings and all of the help information you might want to know, including builder video guides, playthrough videos, walkthrough videos for the tutorial, etc, etc..

Image

Code: Select all
Server: minetest.foo-projects.org
Port: 30394

Important: Read the server rules. Type `/rules` after you login to review them.

Screenshots: Please visit the imgur gallery: http://imgur.com/a/1nRlL or open the Screenshot section:

+ Spoiler


Server chat is connected to #insidethebox on irc.freenode.net. Come join us and help out. It's OK to give clues to players that are stuck in a box.

Since it's OK to post spoilers on levels in here, please feel free to ask for, or give hints to solve levels in this thread!
 

User avatar
GreenDimond
Member
 
Posts: 956
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2015 01:26
Location: Just outside of existence.
GitHub: GreenXenith
IRC: GreenDimond
In-game: GreenDimond

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by GreenDimond » Sat Sep 02, 2017 20:57

I must say. Favorite. Server. Of. All. Time. And I haven't even finished the tutorial yet :D
And I'm the guy in the 15th screenshot :D
My YouTube channel. I moderate the HOMETOWN Server. My Mods: Tac Nayn - Sandplus - Waffles - Pumpkin Spice ✂️- - - - - -
 

red-001
Member
 
Posts: 192
Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 20:15
GitHub: red-001
IRC: red-001 red-002 red-003 etc red-NaN red-999 Lord_Buckethead

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by red-001 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 21:48

Glad to see that the server/game is finally at a state were it's ready for public testing.
 

sofar
Developer
 
Posts: 1168
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 07:31
GitHub: sofar
IRC: sofar
In-game: sofar

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by sofar » Sun Sep 03, 2017 05:19

So far, we've had over 70 new players today. The highest player count was 8. We've seen a few new boxes get created as well already, and they were enjoyable! Looking forward to getting it ready to share new puzzles with everyone.
 

User avatar
texmex
Member
 
Posts: 590
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 21:08
GitHub: tacotexmex
In-game: texmex
 

User avatar
azekill_DIABLO
Member
 
Posts: 6530
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2014 20:05
Location: Inside the Box
GitHub: azekillDIABLO
In-game: azekill_DIABLO

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by azekill_DIABLO » Sun Sep 03, 2017 17:02

The greatest expression of what a server can be. Really, good job, everthing looks amazing!

However there are a few oddities:
    When playing...
  1. When using teleprter pad, I can sometimes glitch trough the blocks under the teleporter and fall out of the box!
  2. The moving platforms behave in quite erratic way, sometimes disapearing too fast, sometimes stacking up, sometimes moving not like usual. It can really break the fun as the part 5 of tutorial contains lots of these.
    When creating...
  3. The set door thing doesn't work at all. Or it seems so.
  4. Steel doors can be placed next to each other but don't act like double doors, which oblivously looks terrible.
  5. Steel doors can't be removed at all, even with the editing tool, the pickaxe or the admin tool.
 

User avatar
the_raven_262
Member
 
Posts: 267
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2014 09:30
GitHub: theraven262
IRC: the_raven_262 Raven262 Corvus262 corvus
In-game: the_raven_262 Raven262 Nevermore

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by the_raven_262 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 17:42

You can place the set door thingy, only on +x and -x walls. The one at +x will be the exit, the -x will be the entrance.
 

User avatar
kingoscargames
Member
 
Posts: 214
Joined: Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:06
Location: Netherlands
GitHub: kingoscargames
In-game: kingoscargames

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by kingoscargames » Sun Sep 03, 2017 18:33

azekill_DIABLO wrote:[*]Steel doors can't be removed at all, even with the editing tool, the pickaxe or the admin tool.[/list]

Image
I think i have problem.. XD
Attachments
doors.png
(108.91 KiB) Not downloaded yet
 

sofar
Developer
 
Posts: 1168
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 07:31
GitHub: sofar
IRC: sofar
In-game: sofar

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by sofar » Sun Sep 03, 2017 20:14

If you run into issues when creating boxes, ping nore or sofar and we can come and show you or help you remove blocks.
 

User avatar
TumeniNodes
Member
 
Posts: 2124
Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2016 19:49
Location: in the dark recesses of the mind
GitHub: TumeniNodes
IRC: tumeninodes
In-game: TumeniNodes

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by TumeniNodes » Sun Sep 03, 2017 22:21

This looks absolutely awesome!!!
Very very nice work guys...
Malicious intent, is NOT covered by the Fair Use Act.
 

sofar
Developer
 
Posts: 1168
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 07:31
GitHub: sofar
IRC: sofar
In-game: sofar

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by sofar » Mon Sep 04, 2017 00:40

kingoscargames wrote:
azekill_DIABLO wrote:[*]Steel doors can't be removed at all, even with the editing tool, the pickaxe or the admin tool.[/list]

I think i have problem.. XD


This should be fixed now!
 

User avatar
azekill_DIABLO
Member
 
Posts: 6530
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2014 20:05
Location: Inside the Box
GitHub: azekillDIABLO
In-game: azekill_DIABLO

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by azekill_DIABLO » Mon Sep 04, 2017 17:02

kingoscargames wrote:
azekill_DIABLO wrote:[*]Steel doors can't be removed at all, even with the editing tool, the pickaxe or the admin tool.[/list]

Image
I think i have problem.. XD


xD amazing box, need to try it!
 

sofar
Developer
 
Posts: 1168
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 07:31
GitHub: sofar
IRC: sofar
In-game: sofar

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by sofar » Tue Sep 05, 2017 00:09

Things have been a LOT of fun this weekend. We saw a ton of new players work their way through the tutorial and Master series, and the first new puzzles have been made by people that didn't even know about the server two days ago.

Special thanks to The_raven_262:

"A house in the woods"
Image

and GreenDimond:

"There snow way out"
Image

for their excellent additions! These 2 new levels are now part of the master series and everyone can enjoy them!
 

sofar
Developer
 
Posts: 1168
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 07:31
GitHub: sofar
IRC: sofar
In-game: sofar

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by sofar » Tue Sep 05, 2017 07:07

Just to make sure people know issues are fixed as fast as we can:

azekill_DIABLO wrote:When using teleprter pad, I can sometimes glitch trough the blocks under the teleporter and fall out of the box!


That's sadly a really difficult problem to solve, since the client owns the movement, and we'd have to lock your character in place for a while to work around it, but you'd just be stuck in place, which isn't nice either.

azekill_DIABLO wrote:The moving platforms behave in quite erratic way, sometimes disapearing too fast, sometimes stacking up, sometimes moving not like usual. It can really break the fun as the part 5 of tutorial contains lots of these.


This is essentially lag. The server is running relatively smooth, we can't really do that much about it, and removing these type of puzzles would make the game more bland, sadly, so this problem will likely stay.

azekill_DIABLO wrote:The set door thing doesn't work at all. Or it seems so.


It works, except, you can only place/move them on east and west walls of the box. It's all documented in the library on the server, too, btw.

azekill_DIABLO wrote:Steel doors can be placed next to each other but don't act like double doors, which oblivously looks terrible.


I'm not sure what you mean. You can place them side by side and if you place the left one first, the right one is automatically placed mirrorred. If you couple them to the same input signal, they will open at the same time. You just have to wire them up correctly.

azekill_DIABLO wrote:Steel doors can't be removed at all, even with the editing tool, the pickaxe or the admin tool.


Fixed. The edit tool can remove them without problems now.
 

User avatar
azekill_DIABLO
Member
 
Posts: 6530
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2014 20:05
Location: Inside the Box
GitHub: azekillDIABLO
In-game: azekill_DIABLO
 

User avatar
DS-minetest
Member
 
Posts: 968
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2014 19:49
Location: in front of my pc (which is at home)
GitHub: DS-Minetest
In-game: DS

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by DS-minetest » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:40

I can't find the subgame.
On the server is an address to it:
Image
screenshot_20170905_133159.png
(344 Bytes) Not downloaded yet

But https://github.com/sofar/insidethebox is not the web page I am looking for.
Do not call me -minetest.
Call me DS or DS-minetest.
I am German, so you don't have to pm me English if you are also German.
The background is a lie.
 

sofar
Developer
 
Posts: 1168
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 07:31
GitHub: sofar
IRC: sofar
In-game: sofar

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by sofar » Tue Sep 05, 2017 15:49

DS-minetest wrote:On the server is an address to it (...)
But https://github.com/sofar/insidethebox is not the web page I am looking for.


No, the source code is not yet posted online. We will do this at a later stage.

Two of the reasons that it hasn't happened are that I want to make sure I get all the attribution properly, and that we resolve the most important bugs.

I must note though that most of the code is highly specific to the server, and will be of little use to anyone making subgames without making major modifications to it.
 

User avatar
DS-minetest
Member
 
Posts: 968
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2014 19:49
Location: in front of my pc (which is at home)
GitHub: DS-Minetest
In-game: DS

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by DS-minetest » Wed Sep 06, 2017 16:24

A texture pack is a good way to reduce the amount of client side memory usage since the skybox images are so heavy. I scaled them down to 128² and my memory usage was only 788mb.
Last edited by DS-minetest on Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:39, edited 2 times in total.
Do not call me -minetest.
Call me DS or DS-minetest.
I am German, so you don't have to pm me English if you are also German.
The background is a lie.
 

User avatar
azekill_DIABLO
Member
 
Posts: 6530
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2014 20:05
Location: Inside the Box
GitHub: azekillDIABLO
In-game: azekill_DIABLO
 

sofar
Developer
 
Posts: 1168
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 07:31
GitHub: sofar
IRC: sofar
In-game: sofar

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by sofar » Wed Sep 06, 2017 16:41

DS-minetest wrote:A texture pack is a good way to reduce the amount of client side memory usage since the skybox images are so heavy. I scaled it down to 128².


So the textures were compressed a lot, but we still map them to a 2048x2048 texture, so they consume a lot of texture memory (and thus, system RAM).

I will go and see if we can reduce the texture sizes, but keep the quality of the images high. This is one of the things that JPG is actually really good at, and so we can probably win a lot of RAM memory back. If we go 1024x1024 textures, we save 72MB ram usage, if we go to 512x512, we save almost 90MB ram usage.

This does however mean everyone will be re-downloading all the images again. Fortunately we have a media server running to make this efficient.
 

sofar
Developer
 
Posts: 1168
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 07:31
GitHub: sofar
IRC: sofar
In-game: sofar

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by sofar » Thu Sep 07, 2017 04:09

Updates! We've been focussing on bugs and playability, and a lot has improved in less than a week:

  • We've fixed a few puzzles to be a little bit more forgiving. We've noticed a lot of players never finish the tutorial (we didn't expect them to, but not that many) so we'll try to balance the tutorial to be difficult enough but not overly troublesome for most players.
  • Music! We've added more music tracks to the server. Music will now continue playing once in a while when solving or creating puzzles too, and you can turn it off if you want in the inventory.
  • We reduced the skybox textures from 2048x2048 to 1024x1024. This is a 75% reduction in game client memory, and another 6mb reduced download size, while maintaining a high level of quality.
  • Better series reset progress. There is now a formspec that appears that explains what resetting does and what your options are.
  • Fly while editing! Many have asked for this, so, you got it.
  • Two small, but important texture fixes.
  • Several crash fixes in the terminal mod code
  • Fix edit tool to allow digging doors and trapdoors, even metal ones.

Many thanks for everyone for reporting bugs and suggestions. While the code matures due to all the live testing that is going on, I feel more confident that we can release the code sooner and start tracking bugs in an open project setting.
 

User avatar
GreenDimond
Member
 
Posts: 956
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2015 01:26
Location: Just outside of existence.
GitHub: GreenXenith
IRC: GreenDimond
In-game: GreenDimond

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by GreenDimond » Thu Sep 07, 2017 04:15

sofar wrote:Fly while editing! Many have asked for this, so, you got it.

Yes! Thankyou!
My YouTube channel. I moderate the HOMETOWN Server. My Mods: Tac Nayn - Sandplus - Waffles - Pumpkin Spice ✂️- - - - - -
 

sofar
Developer
 
Posts: 1168
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 07:31
GitHub: sofar
IRC: sofar
In-game: sofar

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by sofar » Thu Sep 07, 2017 17:19

I did a quick collection of player origin and made this map:

Image

It's cool to see that players are coming from all over the world. Some regions appear to be underrepresented, though, like China and most of Africa.
 

User avatar
azekill_DIABLO
Member
 
Posts: 6530
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2014 20:05
Location: Inside the Box
GitHub: azekillDIABLO
In-game: azekill_DIABLO
 

User avatar
kingoscargames
Member
 
Posts: 214
Joined: Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:06
Location: Netherlands
GitHub: kingoscargames
In-game: kingoscargames

Re: [Server] Inside The Box [Puzzles]

by kingoscargames » Thu Sep 07, 2017 18:25

Are you stalking me!?!? O_O (:P)
Edit: LOL
Last edited by kingoscargames on Thu Sep 07, 2017 20:56, edited 1 time in total.
 

Next

Return to Servers



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests