[Server] Sky World Subgames

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[Server] Sky World Subgames

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A subgame server with following subgames

Mesewars
While your meseblock exists you can respawn. There a spawners for flint, iron and gold. Stuff can be bought at the shops.
To win: Kill all players after digging their meseblock.

Map 1
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Spoiler
Map 2
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Map 3
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Guns
You have 5 lives and several guns.
To win: Kill all players

Map 2
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Spoiler
Map 1
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Map 3
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PVP
You have 1 life. You can fight with a sword, a knockback stick and a bow.
To win: Kill all players

Map 2
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Spoiler
Map 1
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TNTWars
You have one life. If you fall down you will die. There are 5 spawners each island for TNT arrows.
To win: Shoot the TNT arrows to blow up the other spawners and islands and kill all players.

Map 2
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Spoiler
Map 1
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Map 3
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Spleef
The blocks under you will go away, so you should walk the whole time. You have a torch to blast the TNT up.
To win: Blast the TNT under all players up, that they fall down.

Map 1
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Spoiler
Map 2
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SpeedJump
There are checkpoints all few jumps.
To win: Be the first who finishs the jump and run.

Map 1
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Spoiler
Map 2
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Downer
Jump down from block to block.
To win: Be the first who finishs the 250 blocks.

Map 2
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Spoiler
Map 1
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Wooler
You will see a wool block in the middle of your screen. Stay always on the color which is shown on the screen. The other wool blocks will disappear soon.
To win: Be the latest player standing on the wool block.

Map 1
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Spoiler
Map 2
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All maps can be seen in the trailer as well


Monthly Event(Every first weekend): GunsXXL
You start with a pistol. Get more guns, armor, blocks to build and food by opening chests, which are spreaded all over the map. Stay within the decreasing border. GunsXXL is inspired by battle royale games like fortnite or pubg.
To win: Kill all players

Map
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Rules
  • Use only official Minetest releases
Details
Serverlist Name
Sky World Subgames

Address
talklounge.net

Port
30001 (0.4 Version)
30002 (5.x Version)


Have fun, TalkLounge
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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Dieser server ist relativ gut aufgebaut. Gute Arbeit :D

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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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Guter Server ! Schade, dass er nicht viel bevölkert ist. Ist er in der öffentlichen Serverliste eingetragen ?
Ich und mein Bruder machen gerade ein komplett neues CTF. Wärst du bereit, dieses aufzunehmen ?
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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Wir machen dir gerne eine kleine Vorführung von dem, was wir bis jetzt haben(arbeiten erst seit 2 Tagen daran, heute is Tag 2)
https://imgur.com/a/w6BBFl8
Wir bauen alles grundlegend neu auf. WIR BENUTZEN NIX VON RUBENWARDY. Jegliche Ähnlichkeit mit seinem CTF liegt in der Natur von CTF und ist unausweichlich.
Und sag uns, wenn du eine Server-Vorführung haben möchtest, dann sagen wir dir IP und Port und du kannst joinen.
Allerdings erwartet dich evtl. viel Lag !
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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Rules

Use only official Minetest

so you would allow what we got kicked for from Minetest-CTF - auto-eating bots, for example ?
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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so you would allow what we got kicked for from Minetest-CTF - auto-eating bots, for example ?
What do you mean?
Self programmed anticheat is already running on the server.
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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How would you determine whether the player manages to eat apples that fast - or a bot ?
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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Use this to make the server run smoother for players: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=18951
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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How would you determine whether the player manages to eat apples that fast - or a bot ?
If you use auto-eating bots you dont follow the rule: Use only official Minetest releases
How I would decide if I catch you with one is depending on the situation.
If your auto-eating bots will be only there to fill your hunger, then its not a big problem.
Use this to make the server run smoother for players: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=18951
Every mod on my server is at least a little bit reprogrammed. So I think it wont work.
The server also does have less mods, so its smooth enough, i think.
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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As the final decision is that you will perhaps host it, could you please publish your code ?
Also, we are developing the game in a general way. Could you modify it so that it fits for your server ?
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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As the final decision is that you will perhaps host it, could you please publish your code ?
No, no and no.

Its very brave and risky that Lejo did it. I told that Lejo as well.

Publishing my code
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Contra
  • Everyone can make a own server with this code(Ignoring license: I dont want to pay a lawyer)
  • Everyone can see unknown bugs and use it
  • Work of 6 months is gone
If there are more contras than pros, why should I publish my code?
That other can improve and develop it, isnt a pro argument, because then I dont understand my own code.
Could you modify it so that it fits for your server ?
Of course. You wont get around it.

You want that your ctf will be running on a server. So you should ask me and not order me.

Why should I trust you?
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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"Why should I trust you?"
  • how did you find that thread ? Did you do some researches 'bout us ?
    is that a joke or meant serious ? Are you starting to doubt us because of the discussion with rubenwardy ?
    if serious, how can we prove ourselves trustworthy ?
  • maybe look at my website, then you'll probably realize I'm not a fake personality
  • You wont publish your code
Okay, I'm fine with. However, if you decide to use our CTF, you'll then have to integrate it in your server without any help of us.

Another option would be that you just share your code with us, but only if you trust us, of course ;)
"[...]you should ask, and not order me"
How was my post intended to order you :P
In german, "could" means "könntest", and IMHO, thats a very common way of asking smb for sth.

- you said you wont like others to improve/develop your code
How about extending ? Is that same ?
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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Since last month there is a event every first weekend in the month called: GunsXXL
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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TalkLounge wrote:Since last month there is a event every first weekend in the month called: GunsXXL
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whats the next date with the gunsxxl?
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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every first weekend in the month
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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TalkLounge, let me tell you my humble opinion : I'm really disappointed.
That's all. We have to forget about your server, no problem. And about "if you want something, just tell me to do so" :
I doubt you would be able to make something similar to the great APIs we are implementing right now. No problem, we'll (hopefully) find another server.
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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LMD wrote:TalkLounge, let me tell you my humble opinion : I'm really disappointed.
That's all. We have to forget about your server, no problem. And about "if you want something, just tell me to do so" :
I doubt you would be able to make something similar to the great APIs we are implementing right now. No problem, we'll (hopefully) find another server.
hmm just saying that talklounge couldnt make these "great api's" is pretty boastful and lowers the chance of her hosting the new ctf for you.
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TalkLounge is female ???
BTW, thats just my opinion. I am simply telling what I really think.
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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For everyone who dont get it:

LMD/KGM asked me, if I can run their CTF on my server. After I make an arrangement with Lejo, I said yes to LMD/KGM.

Then someone alerts me to this, this and this. So I changed my opinion and dont want to host CTF any more.

I dont want to support cheaters. And dont want to loose my server through code injection.
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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Dear TalkLounge,
Most important : I WANT TO HEAVILY APOLOGIZE FOR MY RUDE BEHAVIOR IN THE PREVIOUS POST; I WAS VERY OUTRAGED WHILE WRITING IT; FORTUNATELY ITS DELETED.
It of course is your - and only your - decision whether you want to run our CTF. It's not your duty to do so. Nothing forces you. It is more of an feature to the community, an altruistic thought.
However, it would be very nice of you if you'd explain your argument :
"I don't want to support cheaters"
better to me. Yes, KGM did some stuff, and he doesnt deny it, but why are you supporting us in cheating when you allow players to experience a completely new CTF ??

You said you would not want to loose your server through malicious code [from us].

At first, IMO, accusing us of attempting to use the chance to abuse your trust isnt that nice...

Also, you should consider the various options you have to avoid such security issues.
Maybe you should get a basic server security manual ? I once ran an Apache 2 Server (completely different from MT) and it was taken down after ~2 days by some stupid hackers.
However, the options I told you about are as follows :

- just use a such-called VIRTUAL MACHINE (Virtual Box works well) and test our code before you use it in your server.
- use a virus scanner/your eyes to have a brief look at the main parts
- check for risky macros in our code
- BACKUP your server

That are only some basics.

You also said you have been alerted to the threads listed above.

I am very curious about WHY it "alerts" you that I requested the community to please define me hacking/cheating ? The topic went quite popular and I had the pleasure to read many well-thought opinions.
The 2nd link I wanted to say isnt available anymore, sfan5 "deleted" it, as it was too risky, cause also bad stuff could have been made with the stuff KGM wrote in his tuto. Anyway, I can't agree with sfan, as the tutorial was really helpful and has uncounted improvements to CSM limits.
Following it, a chat logger for clients is possible, which would be very useful for proving insults or citing mates as client.

The 3rd one is about "MT Server-client communication encrypted ?" and aimed at something completely different - until Rubenwardy had to bring the cheating case of my brother up - which made it end in an argument.

So, in summary, please explain MORE DETAILED, and not as brief as above(only few sentences) why you not permit us hosting it at your Server after you first agreed, why you changed your mind. Thanks in advance for taking your time to respond to all my arguments listed.

(please dont take the capital letters as provocation, they are supposed to indicate BOLD/IMPORTANT text)

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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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Please take some time to respond to my posts. Else they are meaningless.
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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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New Spleef Map by 2_waldberg

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Re: [Server] Sky World Subgames

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New Guns Map by dopik

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New TNTWars Map by Bekka

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New Guns Map by dopik & Elias

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Server moved to: talklounge.ddns.net:30001
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