[Server] Xanadu

[sorcerykid]

Interesting that the rules don't say anything about sitting idle, yet griefing is prohibited. But I guess if the server owner decides to go on a griefing rampage, then that's an exception.

[GayJesus]

Hello,

Sad day for me, someone destroyed my protected home and stole my items because I was AFK:


I play since 2016 on Xanadu and my hard work to collect items every day and build my house has been destroyed!
In the server rules, AFK is not forbidden so I don't understand why a player do that.
Is it really an admin / mod decision?

Thank you.
Best regards.

Edit: well, he came back, now we have a name:

I think he is a hacker, not sure if we can do something for that...

The host and some moderators on Xanadu are complete Aholes. So much so it's laughable. It's as if they work for Microsoft or have some agenda to make small kids cry and others hate Minetest.

[firefox]

well, that escalated quickly...
i didn't want to heat up old coffee, but i feel like we should make a few things clear here:

In the server rules, AFK is not forbidden so I don't understand why a player do that.

Shinji_Ikari is the server owner. he pays the bills for internet, electricity and hardware to run the server and he gets nothing in return.
this is not a public service, he doesn't sell or advertise anything, it's just his own personal world that we are allowed to play in.

even if a player does not move or act, the server still continuously sends data to the client. this occupies bandwidth, which could be considered a waste of resources if it's not used because the player is AFK.
i'm lacking information here, and i don't want to stir this up more, but if this was not a one-time occurrence but a daily procedure, then this is something to trigger a reaction.
whether the reaction was appropriate is not up for discussion, because of the reason above.

on the bright side: as far as i can see, the destroyed nodes can easily be replaced. nothing of rare value, except the chests contents maybe, but i took a look today and i must say that chests of wooden swords and wooden trash cans are not a big loss.
just leave it at that, and things will be fine.

regarding the written rules: there is no rule against building a giant phallus house, but it's still forbidden and very likely to result in a permanent ban.
the fact that admin decisions are absolute is written on the rule board, however. and with that, it's all set.

Without the screenshots I'd have said that your portection might have "expired". It sadly sometimes does on Xanandu. Even though some players build amazing houses there, it's not really a builder-friendly server in the end. At least not if you want your buildings to last.

protections don't simply expire. but if a player was inactive for more than 6 months, protections get removed. naturally, quality buildings get protected by the admin.
i have witnessed this several times, and the buildings that didn't last were mostly plain cubes made of wood or cobble.
i see no reason to keep those, especially when they occupy popular areas near big roads and/or teleporters.

The host and some moderators on Xanadu are complete Aholes. So much so it's laughable. It's as if they work for Microsoft or have some agenda to make small kids cry and others hate Minetest.

do you have evidence to backup your claims?

i don't know any moderators who are like this, so i would assume that "some" refers to me...
yes, i probably did "make a small kid cry" when i refused to be their "friend", build a house with them and give them 50 diamonds and armor.
and i would do it again, because i'm evil.

[firefox]

looking at the amazing mega-structures that will become the gates of Avalon and Valhalla, i felt like my Gate Guardians are somewhat lacking in overwhelming presence...
and i put them too close to fit a giant door between them, so i decided to make a giant moon gate around them.

find the blueprint here: viewtopic.php?f=3&p=380426#p380426

1st step:

+ Spoiler

current progress:

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[TenPlus1]

Looks amazing :P

[GayJesus]

do you have evidence to backup your claims?

i don't know any moderators who are like this, so i would assume that "some" refers to me...
yes, i probably did "make a small kid cry" when i refused to be their "friend", build a house with them and give them 50 diamonds and armor.
and i would do it again, because i'm evil.

Long ago, maybe 3 year or more, a friend and I were both talked down to and banned with no warning for some silly reason. It wasn't you because I remember a female name and the host. After that I tried many other servers and from time to time players mentioned the same happening to them on Xanadu. I'm not that active on multiplayer but 2 years ago i used to read the Xanadu thread just for the drama. So don't tell me this isn't the first or 30th time you've had to defend that giant Ahole of a host, lol. I don't even care, not my server, maybe that's how you guys get your kicks. If so that's cool,funny. have a great day.

[firefox]

making progress

[ObsidianBlade12]

Hello,

Sad day for me, someone destroyed my protected home and stole my items because I was AFK:

He wrote on my welcome sign:


He stole all my chests:


He destroyed the ground and the walls:



I play since 2016 on Xanadu and my hard work to collect items every day and build my house has been destroyed!
In the server rules, AFK is not forbidden so I don't understand why a player do that.
Is it really an admin / mod decision?

Thank you.
Best regards.

Edit: well, he came back, now we have a name:

I think he is a hacker, not sure if we can do something for that...

This disappoints me a lot. I cannot believe that an Admin of his own server, would grief any players' things. This is unacceptable behavior PERIOD, even if he is an admin or not. Being AFK DOES NOT give an Admin, who is indeed in charge of following his own rules, the power to grief. I am sorry that happened to you.

[TenPlus1]

From what information I've gathered from other players, it seems that YuGiOhJCJ would sit idle on the server for hours on end causing multiple mobs to attack, which caused the log files to bloat considerably while being attacked, which in turn which caused server lag as well as device lag for all of his other devices (netflix, games, mobile etc.)... Shinji tried to reach out and talk with him about this but received no answer, this went on for months and eventually to get his attention a sign was placed and finally his chests were removed.

[sorcerykid]

I imagine the reasonable solution, if AFK players pose a detriment to server performance, would be to install a mod like afk-kick. The rather hostile response from the server owner in this case just doesn't seem to fit the offense. But that's just me.

On a sidenote, I have a PR currently open that makes detecting AFK players much easier.

[TenPlus1]

Sorcerykid - I was talking that over with the owner last night, I'm going to look into a 10 minute afk check and kick anyone not moving within that time with a message explaining why.

[twoelk]

so you better hurry when going to toilet ... and don't make a mess of it because you will get kicked in the unresponsive virtuell butt while cleaning any real life mess :D

just recently I fell asleep while connected to a server, guess the rats ate me, the ingame ones, for lack of better name ... zzzzzz ...

[TenPlus1]

I never usually minded players being AFK so long as they moved to a save place away from mobs and of course other players :) Will use GunshipPenguin's afkmod in update later today and maybe change to 15 mins timer and 20 second warning.

[GayJesus]

Shinji tried to reach out

Ban reason message could be used this way. Of course let them know it's temporary but next ban isn't to force their attention.

[TenPlus1]

We dont use the /ban command on server but a custom /limit command which doesn't kick but remove privs.

[iska]

Hi guys, interesting read... I wonder why after all these years Shinji still runs the server as most of the time he appears; he clearly acts like he hates everything about it...
He is the one and only reason I quit from Xanadu for good, later hopping different servers and finally last year moved to Minecraft.
I miss good old times in the Xanadu tho <3.
Drop me a msg if you like to stay intouch.
Good luck to everyone, specially you friendly neighbourhood crocodile 8) and my first friend in Xanadu, master of ninja kittens, Red_Fox ;)

--iska

[TenPlus1]

I've added 4 new players skins from Among Us for a giggle :) You can always use a 'pint sized potion' to make yourself into a tiny sidekick.

[wwar]

This server has a real history!

[wwar]

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TenPlus1 and I are cleaning near the spawn :D

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[Gab888]

I've added 4 new players skins from Among Us for a giggle :) You can always use a 'pint sized potion' to make yourself into a tiny sidekick.

That's sus...

[Dragonop]

Waddup, I'm back, let me in hah