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Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.23] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 19:35
by acidzebra
DrFrankenstone wrote:This is what an Ethereal map looks like today


Neat! I love the tool, very easy to use, will help a lot because endlessly loading minetest to look at your biome changes is not fun.

TenPlus1 wrote:All ideas are welcome for testing and best results may make it into the mod itself...

I was thinking of using the new floatlands for Ethereal biomes and leaving the current v7 biomes for ground level since a lot of work has gone into changing default biomes, but this would be a huge task.


Ain't that the truth. I've been toying with ethereal + minetest game + 30biomes and building a lush tropical world with snow restricted to just the mountain tops.

ps. thanks for maintaining Ethereal, it's awesome :D

I've been using vertical_blend https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/a4f41e7bfc6c2d823eab1465258617cb033a452c/doc/lua_api.txt#L6344 to smooth out the "banding" (typically seen on mountains when there is a sharp and 100% straight dividing line between biome borders).

Other tricks I like are having the "treeline" start a few blocks higher than the biome itself, so you have a few blocks of undergrowth before the trees start, it smooths things out more. I'm also trying to establish sensible "border biomes" to smooth out the more extreme climate changes (going from glacier straight to rainforest, for example). I haven't had much luck with that yet.

When I found the vertical_blend setting I also found this for biome definitions, thinking of using that to add polar regions to the very edges of the map (not tested yet):
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max_pos = {x = 31000, y = 128, z = 31000},
min_pos = {x = -31000, y = 9, z = -31000},
 -- xyz limits for biome, an alternative to using 'y_min' and 'y_max'.

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:17
by atorian37
I started a new ethereal NG world a few days ago on a testing server and find it very nice. Because I don't like the flying rocks of the mapgenv7 I decided to use mapgenv6. What is the difference when I use v6 instead of v7 about the features of this mod?

second thing is: I am looking for a compatible and easy to use mobs mod (monsters and animals) for my new world. what do you suggest to use? Now when at the beginning of this wolrd, it's easy to decide wich one, later it will become more difficult ;)

thanks for your reply!

atorian37

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:47
by Pyrollo
atorian37 wrote:I started a new ethereal NG world a few days ago on a testing server and find it very nice. Because I don't like the flying rocks of the mapgenv7 I decided to use mapgenv6. What is the difference when I use v6 instead of v7 about the features of this mod?


Refer to this article on minetest wiki: Map_Generator

atorian37 wrote:second thing is: I am looking for a compatible and easy to use mobs mod (monsters and animals) for my new world. what do you suggest to use? Now when at the beginning of this wolrd, it's easy to decide wich one, later it will become more difficult ;)


I would suggest you to use TenPlus1's Mobs redo, works out of the box (I use ethereal + mobs redo for testing purpose, easy to set up).

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 16:34
by lilo
Hello,

I'm just trying out Ethereal and have a question about the new trees that have been added.
As I understand it, the trees grow only on the respective soil of the biomes. Therefore, it would not be possible to grow a tree elsewhere, as these soils are not producible or degradable.

In my case, I switched off the mushroom forests. However, a recipe could still produce a mushroom seedling if needed, but it would never grow.

Should that be so or how do you deal with it?

Best regards

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 19:37
by TenPlus1
Crafting a crystal shovel gives the player soft touch to pick up different soils intact to grow saplings away from it's original biome, plus you could use my bonemeal mod to quickgrow saplings and crops on any dirt :)

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:17
by lilo
Hi,

that's great and worked.

greets

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 14:56
by TenPlus1
Update:

- Added Bamboo Blocks (3x3 bamboo or 2x bamboo floor)
- Changed Bamboo Floor recipe (now 2x2 bamboo)
- Bamboo Blocks act like wood and can be crafted into sticks

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 20:34
by KatzEyez
Does ethereal:sandy spread? If it does, does the water have to be a certain depth before it will spread?

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 22:00
by Mantar
Checked the source, it doesn't look like it does.

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 21:09
by TenPlus1
ethereal:sandy acts more like an ore and turns into normal sand when dug... it's only use is for producing coral or seaweed when below water.

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 00:00
by KatzEyez
Thanks for the reply on that TenPlus1.

I have a HUGE HUGE request. :3 (pleeeeze)
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Sakura biome. The trees could be reddish on the exterior and pink in the middle, so there can be pink wood, perhaps. The leaves could possibly resemble pink flowers. The dirt would be Dirt with Blossoms, similar to Prairie Dirt but with Sakura blossoms or petals littering the top. There could be pink, white, and lavender flowers/plants growing naturally.

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 16:51
by TenPlus1
Sounds a nice idea, if I find time I'll work on it, for now acacia wood is pink and can be used in it's place :)

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:25
by KatzEyez
Thanks for considering it TenPlus1. ^_^

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.24] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 03:55
by FrostRanger
I second the addition of the sakura biome. :p

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.26] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:30
by TenPlus1
Updated to version 1.26:

- Added Sakura biome and tree
- Added Sakura stairs, fence and gate
- Biome tweak where bamboo appears at higher elevation while sakura is at lower
- There's a 1 in 10 chance a sakura sapling grows into a white tree :)
- Added lucky blocks

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.26] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 16:30
by Andrey01
TenPlus1 wrote:Updated to version 1.26:

- Added Sakura biome and tree
- Added Sakura stairs, fence and gate
- Biome tweak where bamboo appears at higher elevation while sakura is at lower
- There's a 1 in 10 chance a sakura sapling grows into a white tree :)
- Added lucky blocks

Nice to hear about addition of new biomes :)

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.26] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 22:39
by KatzEyez
TenPlus1 wrote:Updated to version 1.26:

- Added Sakura biome and tree
- Added Sakura stairs, fence and gate
- Biome tweak where bamboo appears at higher elevation while sakura is at lower
- There's a 1 in 10 chance a sakura sapling grows into a white tree :)
- Added lucky blocks


OMGOSH So quickly! Thank you so much!!! <3

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.26] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 19:41
by FrostRanger
Here's some screenshots of the new sakura biome that I took in singleplayer :D

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Thank you for adding this awesome new biome!

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.26] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 22:47
by h-v-smacker
I cannot get a white sakura to spawn at all. After I chopped down enough trees, I went to the mod source itself, and changed the condition from "white == 1" to "white < 11", which should always be true so that, as I expected, a white sakura would spawn every time. None did. It's still the default ones.

I thought it was because the replacement table syntax wasn't correct (you had {{"ethereal:sakura_leaves", "ethereal:sakura_leaves2"}} where it should be {["old_nodename"] = "new_nodename", ... } — but it made no difference.

In minetest.api for minetest.place_schematic(pos, schematic, rotation, replacements, force_placement, flags) I read this:

"**Warning**: Once you have loaded a schematic from a file, it will be
cached. Future calls will always use the cached version and the
replacement list defined for it, regardless of whether the file or the
replacement list parameter have changed. The only way to load the file
anew is to restart the server."

Maybe that's it?

I copied sakura.mts to sakura2.mts and hardcoded the replacement table → got a white sakura. But I still cannot change what happens when sakura.mts is used. However, with this code it works as expected):

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function ethereal.grow_sakura_tree(pos)
    if math.random(10) == 1 then
        add_tree(pos, 4, 0, 3, path .. "sakura2.mts", {["ethereal:sakura_leaves"] = "ethereal:sakura_leaves2"})
    else
        add_tree(pos, 4, 0, 3, path .. "sakura.mts")
    end
end


PS:
Biome tweak where bamboo appears at higher elevation while sakura is at lower


So no more gorgeous vast bamboo forests??? My favorite biome... (((

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.26] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:30
by TenPlus1
Update:

- Table schematic created for Sakura tree (works better)
- Bamboo is a highland biome while Sakura is lower
- Added Sakura Door to fit in with paper walls

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.26] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:50
by EdShouldBeInBed
h-v-smacker wrote:PS:
Biome tweak where bamboo appears at higher elevation while sakura is at lower


So no more gorgeous vast bamboo forests??? My favorite biome... (((

Why my dear Smacker, don't be silly. Why, attached, find some photos of a recent venture.

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In the first, here I am exploring the boarder between where a grove of smashing sakura and beautiful bamboo meet!

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In the second, I am posing in that very thicket of bamboo. As you see, I may be your average minetester, but the bamboo is magnificent.

It is a simple matter of what height you will now find your beloved biome at! Buck up!

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.26] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 13:11
by h-v-smacker
EdShouldBeInBed wrote:
h-v-smacker wrote:PS:
Biome tweak where bamboo appears at higher elevation while sakura is at lower


So no more gorgeous vast bamboo forests??? My favorite biome... (((

Why my dear Smacker, don't be silly. Why, attached, find some photos of a recent venture.


Dude, it's hard to deny that the higher the elevation, the lower the chances of finding a large area of relatively flat land. When bamboo was beginning in the low elevation, the game generated vast, rather flat, forests of bamboo and bamboo bush. With current increased elevation, however, such a thing would only be possible if a plateau is generated within a bamboo biome, which is a considerably more rare occasion. Otherwise, bamboo will be encountered in uneven elevated terrain — basically, bamboo hills and cliffs, as opposed to bamboo plains.

Basically, what I want to see is this:
https://feel-planet.com/wp-content/uplo ... -Japan.jpg

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.26] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 17:52
by snoopy
@TenPlus1:

Thank you very much again. My family and me are enjoying the results of your coding efforts and certainly the ethereal mod for a long time now.

The ethereal mod package is outstanding and nicely working with the current 5.0.1 version of the Minetest game.

My boys are grown-up now but the new Sakura trees became immediatedly beloved by my girls. Much joy as the quest to search for the golden apples became a success again as in former 0.4.16/17 times.

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.26] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 19:49
by Baerbeisser
I get a 'nil value' in the file gates.lua for 'register_fencegate'.
Compared to other mods which work fine, shouldn't it be 'register_door'?

Re: [MOD] Ethereal NG [1.26] [ethereal]

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 05:13
by TenPlus1
Fence gates were added to doors mod in Minetest 0.4.16 if I remember, and Ethereal takes advantage of this function when adding all the wooden fences and gates for each new tree... Please make sure you are using a new version of minetest.