[Mod] Advanced Trains [advtrains] [2.4.3]

[orwell]

thx for wanting to contribute.
format: preferably ogg, but never mind, i can convert
what: sounds of driving steam engine/wagon/electric locomotive at 3 or 4 different speeds
how long: 5-10 seconds each, can be less, but should allow looping.

[BirgitLachner]

I'll have a look at it ;-)

[mbb]

+1.000.000.000.000

[mbb]

i will look for sounds

[gpcf]

I have several proposals for this mod. I am willing to help with them when I have some time (I fear I won't have much time for the next few months).

• Do not make trains craftable. Having trains in your inventory is strange. Rather add a depot to build the trains and they are placed on the tracks automatically
• Add an inventory to wagons, so trains can carry goods
• Add a narrow-gauge mine railway with a smaller structure gauge to fit in smaller tunnels. Also: train elevators
• Make sure only authorized people can move trains, but still allow people to remove trains blocking the way (I don't know how to do this)
• Trucks that turn in the curves to make the trains more realistic
• More user-friendly and lighter slopes (>10%)
• Train collisions may damage buildings (problem: prevent train grief)
• Automated track builder
• Shunting locomotive with automatic coupling
• Scheduled automatic operation and loading/unloading (great for industrialization), wouldn't it be cool to have subways running every 1-2 minutes around the map? Have a look at simutrans or OpenTTD for approaches for this. I think this should be handled by an external program, possibly written in C for maximum efficiency, since it is probably a very CPU-intensive task.
• Automatic graphing of subway maps
• Integration with technic mod for Electric trains, so they draw power from HV cables
• Funicular railway that has 100% or 200% slopes and a counterweight.
• Turntables
• Maybe a small fare for subway rides to provide an incentive to operate them?

Tell me what you think of these proposals.

[azekill_DIABLO]

Those are great but would need a gigantic code file. and probably an engine rewrite.

Finally after watching a bit, thos could be added. Some animation and node/entities could help us alot, as the abm.

[Desour]

@gpcf: i like your ideas.
the first point reminds me of simutrans

[orwell]

• Do not make trains craftable. Having trains in your inventory is strange. Rather add a depot to build the trains and they are placed on the tracks automatically:
  not this way, but as soon as you place a wagon, you can't get its contents back, this should be realistic enough for the moment.
• Add a narrow-gauge mine railway with a smaller structure gauge to fit in smaller tunnels.
  gimme models, i could revive the old 45 degree rails
• Also: train elevators
  later
• Make sure only authorized people can move trains, but still allow people to remove trains blocking the way (I don't know how to do this):
  EDIT: now implemented, todo: limit access to seats
• Trucks that turn in the curves to make the trains more realistic
  if i had models (and maybe textures)... would not be a big deal to rewrite the code...
  In general, if someone could model the inside of wagons (seats, proper windows a.s.o) that would really help
• More user-friendly and lighter slopes (>10%)
  33% should be enough for the moment. I know that the current turns are way too narrow, but we need to make some compromises to the node grid. minecraft's real-trains mod does this entirely with entities (i think) which is not good and would require a reimplementation from scratch.
• Train collisions may damage buildings (problem: prevent train grief)
  later
• Automated track builder
  would be good, later, but before the other later stuff
• Shunting locomotive with automatic coupling
  maybe
• Scheduled automatic operation and loading/unloading (great for industrialization), wouldn't it be cool to have subways running every 1-2 minutes around the map? Have a look at simutrans or OpenTTD for approaches for this. I think this should be handled by an external program, possibly written in C for maximum efficiency, since it is probably a very CPU-intensive task:
  I plan to add some automatic train control (ATC) rails which can command trains. (only electric ones of course). with digilines and some forceload anchors you could build such a subway system.
• Automatic graphing of subway maps
  a bit offtopic, not in this mod. maybe a separate one...
• Integration with technic mod for Electric trains, so they draw power from HV cables:
  later
• Funicular railway that has 100% or 200% slopes and a counterweight:
  when i have models for them
• Turntables
  see elevators
• Maybe a small fare for subway rides to provide an incentive to operate them?
  better build a ticket system with digilines. but if it's wanted, later.
  
  adding some of my ideas / todos:
• detector rails
• ATC (a big fish)
• Power lines
• DB Regio

[jordan4ibanez]

What a beautiful mod

[azekill_DIABLO]

What a beautiful mod

and how wonderous is the code!

[orwell]

What a beautiful mod

and how wonderous is the code!

is this sarcasm?

Nathan S. did an animation for the engine, but i can't figure out how to get this info into minetest...

[Desour]

Nathan S. did an animation for the engine, but i can't figure out how to get this info into minetest...

you have to use set_animation (api)

[orwell]

I mean how to properly Export it from Blender... Set_animation does not seem to work

[ph8jPf9M]

did you try to export it in B3D https://github.com/alrusdi/blender-b3d-exporter

[orwell]

Yes, b3d (again), still does not work. seems like the animation data is not included in the B3D file. Does anyone know a way to check if the animation arrives in Minetest?

[Desour]

well, to me it works with b3d do you use the minetest version?

[azekill_DIABLO]

and how wonderous is the code!

is this sarcasm?

No! it's really great!

[Desour]

if wonderous is great

[azekill_DIABLO]

and wounderous

[orwell]

I wonder if 'wonderous' is actually an english word. It's such a wonderful word.
TooManyWondersException

[azekill_DIABLO]

wonderful is english, but probably comes a bit from america.

[orwell]

wonderful is english, but probably comes a bit from america.

we were talking about wonderous, weren't we?

[azekill_DIABLO]

yes we were but it's same imho.

[Desour]

my corrector tells me, wondrous is correct
and

to me it works with b3d do you use the minetest version?

[azekill_DIABLO]

Oh idk. i think it works. just need to active the animation with a bit of code.