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Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 14:34
by npx
There is an ABM to remove them from the map!

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 14:40
by Wuzzy
IMO it would make more sense to overwrite those mushrooms with 2 mushrooms from this mod to match the style of everything else. Or just add 2 additional mushrooms just to replace the default mushrooms, by using a close equivalent instead.

An ABM is usually costly and it also does not get rid of brown and red mushrooms in inventories.
It is ugly to have the default mushrooms still present in the game, alongside the 3D mushrooms which are very different.

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 15:38
by burli
Wuzzy wrote:An ABM is usually costly...


As I mentioned this mod has 28 of them, a lot of them with interval = 1 and chance = 1

Definitively too much for a few mushrooms

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 16:17
by azekill_DIABLO
this mod might increase the server lag A LOT

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 00:14
by Zachary
TailsTheFoxDoes MT wrote:
npx wrote:A mod that adds wild plants and fungi in order to give another source of food without farming.

For now there are only 29 fungi and no plants.
You just have to walk around in the different biomes and gather the fungi.
All the fungi are taken from the real world and thay have their scientific names. Many of them are good to eat, but others can be lethal.
There are 5 types of fungi:
-Ectomycorrhizal fungi: grows in association with the roots of trees, the mycelium grows in the ground and sometimes a mushroom will grow. There are also truffles, hard to find (truffles are produced underground)
-Saprobiontic fungi: divided in 4 categories distiguished by where they grow
+Jungle fungi grow on trees trunks in the jungle.
+Grass fungi grow as mycelium underground in grassland and sometimes produce a mushroom on the surface.
+Snowbank fungi act as grass fungi but under the snow.
+Tree fungi as jungle fungi grow on trees trunks of trees and pine trees.

The mushrooms:
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Fungi are generated by abm, so their growth will require some time.

It is possible to farm the fungi with the spores. Exposed to air mycelium will die and the dirt left may contain spores, dropped when digged.
For saprobiontic is necessary to click with the spores the ground (dirt_with_grass or dirt_with_snow) to grow a new mycelium under the node. Ectomycorrhizal fungi spores need to placed on the bottom of the right trunk of a tree, each fungus need a specific tree.

Many mushrooms are hard to digest so it is better to cook them before eating, in order to appreciate their nutritional value fully. Cooking could also inactivate the toxin in poisonous fungi (only in some of them obviously!). In other cases cooking may damage the benefic propreties of the mushrooms reducing his nutritional value.

License: LGPLv3 for the code; CC BY-SA 4.0 for the models and textures

Github: https://github.com/NPXcoot/nsspf
Download: https://github.com/NPXcoot/nsspf/archive/master.zip


Ugh this is too COMPLEX for me! :P
well because I know you are a little kid who creates a channel called tails the fox ha ha identity exposed

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 16:45
by npx
Wuzzy wrote:IMO it would make more sense to overwrite those mushrooms with 2 mushrooms from this mod to match the style of everything else. Or just add 2 additional mushrooms just to replace the default mushrooms, by using a close equivalent instead.

An ABM is usually costly and it also does not get rid of brown and red mushrooms in inventories.
It is ugly to have the default mushrooms still present in the game, alongside the 3D mushrooms which are very different.


You're right, but I really don't know how it could be done... Is it possible to remove them?

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 17:42
by burli
npx wrote:You're right, but I really don't know how it could be done... Is it possible to remove them?

Maybe not all of them, but I think most of the ABMs can be replaced with node timers

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 18:53
by npx
burli wrote:
npx wrote:You're right, but I really don't know how it could be done... Is it possible to remove them?

Maybe not all of them, but I think most of the ABMs can be replaced with node timers


I meant default mushrooms as suggested by Wuzzy...

I know that the mod is heavy and has a lot of ABM, but I think it would be hard to reduce them in number, I will think about the use of node timers

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 18:59
by burli
npx wrote:I meant default mushrooms as suggested by Wuzzy...

Ah, sorry. You can overwrite them with own mushrooms, but you still have the default spread ABM. Or you can remove them

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 22:42
by v-rob
EDIT: never mind

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 18:36
by Sokomine
Very nice mod and models. Would love to see them "out in the wild". Maybe there'll be a new natrue-mod-collection as a subgame? Eden2 was very nice, and the mushrooms would fit in excellently in such a subgame.

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 04:50
by Piezo_
Are these mushrooms supposed to be this pervasive?

You may want to implement some system that limits the amount of mushrooms spawning, as they've ended up on just about every southern node face on my server...

Also, why is on_place set to return nil and not allow placement at all for collected mushrooms?

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Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 19:20
by Lord_Vlad
I used the torch code to tweak your mod and it makes a lot more sense : if not, the mushrooms just stay in place when the node they are attached to moves or is destroyed. Flying mushrooms are weird you know...

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 22:33
by Piezo_
Lord_Vlad wrote:I used the torch code to tweak your mod and it makes a lot more sense : if not, the mushrooms just stay in place when the node they are attached to moves or is destroyed. Flying mushrooms are weird you know...


Could you post a link to this version? (Also, maybe do something about the things I mentioned in the last post?)

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi [nsspf]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 09:59
by Lord_Vlad
Piezo_ wrote:
Lord_Vlad wrote:I used the torch code to tweak your mod and it makes a lot more sense : if not, the mushrooms just stay in place when the node they are attached to moves or is destroyed. Flying mushrooms are weird you know...


Could you post a link to this version? (Also, maybe do something about the things I mentioned in the last post?)


http://sprunge.us/ag1s9h

This is my mushroom.lua file, it's the only one I changed.

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:02
by Piezo_
Is the mod abandoned? Should I fork and fix the other issues myself?

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 17:46
by Inocudom
Piezo_ wrote:Is the mod abandoned? Should I fork and fix the other issues myself?

Yep, sure does seem abandoned to me. Fork and fix you should. E:-P

Re: [mod] Not so simple plants and fungi

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 00:52
by Piezo_
Inocudom wrote:Yep, sure does seem abandoned to me. Fork and fix you should. E:-P


I only do that if I have some reason to (usually because the mod is worthwhile enough that I wouldn't want to get rid of it, but it's not in a usable state as-is). If you're looking for something vaguely similar but MUCH more lightweight, I did make this mod as a replacement when I removed nsspf from my server.