[Mod] Technic [0.4.16-dev] [technic]

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by Nore » Post

DuDraig wrote:The Mintest server I'm on disabled MV and HV machines because of the rise in server lag they created, so we only have LV machines available. The inability of LV machines to accept pipes is crippling to most automation, so I'm wondering if there is a reason for this.
You can ask the server owner to change a few lines to fix that: just allow upgrades for LV furnaces (see how it is done in MV furnaces registration), and they should be able to work as MV for tubes.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by Marshall_maz » Post

DuDraig wrote:Thanks for the reply ThatGraemeGuy. I've been delving the technic code and have come to the same conclusion that the lack of pipe support in LV machines is by design. Although it still makes no functional sense since a conveyance system is completely separate from the tech level of the machine to/from which items are conveyed. Besides, if LV machines can't use pipes, why do they show pipe connection textures?

I found that this server is using an older version of pipeworks and technic that does not allow output from a fuel furnace. Using the current versions in my own server, the fuel furnace works just fine with input and output.

However, the LV furnace will not take input nor send output through a pipe, and the MV furnace will take input but not send output. The LV lack of input is because the node does not have the "tube" group as does MV. This is by design. The lack of output in MV seems to be a technic bug where the node field "input_inventory" is not assigned the name of the furnace product inventory list "dst" as it is in the overrides for the default fuel furnace. Pipeworks needs this field to identify the inventory list of products to send.

At least I now understand the coding reasons for these behaviors. I still think the lack of pipe functions for LV machines makes no realistic sense, especially since the fuel furnace has full pipe functionality. If there are reasons for this, I'd like to hear them.
Also to add, use a screwdriver to swivel the furnace around. I found that depending on which direction the furnace stands the side it ejects differs. Some of MV furnaces ejects left side only and other ejects right side only. Something I could never understand.

Best is to connect your pipes , add logic controller like Greame said , put stuff in and then use screwdriver to rotate it until it starts to eject. But if one ejects left side , doesn't mean another will. Another might eject right hand side. I have this behavior with all my MV furnaces and even centrifuges as well.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by Nore » Post

Marshall_maz wrote:Also to add, use a screwdriver to swivel the furnace around. I found that depending on which direction the furnace stands the side it ejects differs. Some of MV furnaces ejects left side only and other ejects right side only. Something I could never understand.
This is a known long-standing bug, and was never fixed in order to avoid breaking already-existing machines.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by DuDraig » Post

The orientation of the output is

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Face   - The direction you were facing when you placed the node.
Output - The direction of the output side of the node.
Face   Output
----   ------
North  East
East   North
South  West
West   South
I just don't understand the reasoning behind the entire idea. You are supposed to get output from any non-input face: either side or top. If someone places a pipe device on more than one output side, then it should either not output anything or output to each in turn.

Now I understand my confusion with making the MV outputs work. You must not use pipeworks filters and must use at least one Logic Control Units to enable output to a pipe device. I've never seen any documentation that clarifies this. No wonder there is so much confusion.

At least I have everything working now and have sussed the code enough to make some useful improvements. Thank you all for your help.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by ThatGraemeGuy » Post

DuDraig wrote:You must not use pipeworks filters and must use at least one Logic Control Units to enable output to a pipe device. I've never seen any documentation that clarifies this. No wonder there is so much confusion.
https://github.com/minetest-technic/tec ... /manual.md

It's a work in progress, feel free to contribute :-)

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by Marshall_maz » Post

DuDraig wrote:The orientation of the output is

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Face   - The direction you were facing when you placed the node.
Output - The direction of the output side of the node.
Face   Output
----   ------
North  East
East   North
South  West
West   South
I just don't understand the reasoning behind the entire idea. You are supposed to get output from any non-input face: either side or top. If someone places a pipe device on more than one output side, then it should either not output anything or output to each in turn.

Now I understand my confusion with making the MV outputs work. You must not use pipeworks filters and must use at least one Logic Control Units to enable output to a pipe device. I've never seen any documentation that clarifies this. No wonder there is so much confusion.

At least I have everything working now and have sussed the code enough to make some useful improvements. Thank you all for your help.
Thanx for this list.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by JPRuehmann » Post

Hello
Tere is an incompatibility between the technic modpack and the carpet 3d mod

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17:12:30: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA ===========
17:12:30: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from 
17:12:30: ERROR[main]: /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/carpet3d/init.lua:
17:12:30: ERROR[main]: ...netest/.minetest/mods/technic/technic_worldgen/nodes.lua:154: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got string)
17:12:30: ERROR[main]: ======= END OF ERROR FROM LUA ========
17:12:30: ERROR[main]: Server: Failed to load and run /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/carpet3d/init.lua
17:12:30: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ModError: Failed to load and run /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/carpet3d/init.lua
Is there a way to change that.
Thanks,
JPR

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

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hey, Raven tried to protect his castle with forcefield on our server, interesting thing is that it cant work on water. Means you can pass below it
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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by ThatGraemeGuy » Post

lisacvuk wrote:hey, Raven tried to protect his castle with forcefield on our server, interesting thing is that it cant work on water. Means you can pass below it
I've made it penetrate water on my own copy which you can use in the meantime (https://github.com/thatgraemeguy/technic).

I see the technic manual specifically mentions that the forcefield does not penetrate liquid nodes, so I'm not sure if my change will be merged. There may be some very good reason why it was made that way that I haven't realised. At any rate, it seems to works just fine as-is based on the tests I did.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

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I made the forcefield replace all buildable_to nodes (except ignore).
I also found the bottleneck in the forcefield updater and improved the update speed by about 20x (about 0.5s -> 0.02s).

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I was wondering if it would be possible to somehow use node groups in the autocrafter's crafting grid? That way you could dump several materials in the autocrafter and, as long as they are in that group the recipe uses, it will use them.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by ThatGraemeGuy » Post

1. I'm sure someone had mentioned on IRC that there was some intention to look into that, although there seems to be no open issue on github for it.

2. Autocrafters are actually from pipeworks, not technic. Forum: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2155. Github: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by Miner59 » Post

Hi, I just want to post my changed chainsaw.lua file here.
You can cut down the trees from paragenV7 mod now with the chainsaw. This mod adds a acacia tree, a pine tree, a cactus and it changes default trees and jungletrees.
The pine tree was a bit tricky because it has snow on it, but with some changes now the chainsaw should remove the snow, too.
Although I added code to give you only some of the leaves and not all.
And I added acorns and cones from moretrees mod to the removeable nodes, so the sky is not cluttered with them after cutting down a oak for example.

You can put it in technic pack instead of old chainsaw.lua if you like it.

Please copy this code to /technic/technic/tools/chainsaw.lua:

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local chainsaw_max_charge      = 30000 -- Maximum charge of the saw
-- Gives 2500 nodes on a single charge (about 50 complete normal trees)
local chainsaw_charge_per_node = 12
-- Cut down tree leaves.  Leaf decay may cause slowness on large trees
-- if this is disabled.
local chainsaw_leaves = true
local chainsaw_all_leaves = false

-- The default trees
local timber_nodenames = {
	["default:jungletree"] = true,
	["default:papyrus"]    = true,
	["default:cactus"]     = true,
	["default:tree"]       = true,
	["default:apple"]      = true,
}

if chainsaw_leaves then
	timber_nodenames["default:leaves"] = true
	timber_nodenames["default:jungleleaves"] = true
end

-- technic_worldgen defines rubber trees if moretrees isn't installed
if minetest.get_modpath("technic_worldgen") or
		minetest.get_modpath("moretrees") then
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:rubber_tree_trunk_empty"] = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:rubber_tree_trunk"]       = true
	if chainsaw_leaves then
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:rubber_tree_leaves"] = true
	end
end

-- Support moretrees if it is there
if minetest.get_modpath("moretrees") then
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:apple_tree_trunk"]                 = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:apple_tree_trunk_sideways"]        = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:beech_trunk"]                      = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:beech_trunk_sideways"]             = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:birch_trunk"]                      = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:birch_trunk_sideways"]             = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:fir_trunk"]                        = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:fir_trunk_sideways"]               = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:oak_trunk"]                        = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:oak_trunk_sideways"]               = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:palm_trunk"]                       = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:palm_trunk_sideways"]              = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:pine_trunk"]                       = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:pine_trunk_sideways"]              = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:rubber_tree_trunk_sideways"]       = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:rubber_tree_trunk_sideways_empty"] = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:sequoia_trunk"]                    = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:sequoia_trunk_sideways"]           = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:spruce_trunk"]                     = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:spruce_trunk_sideways"]            = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:willow_trunk"]                     = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:willow_trunk_sideways"]            = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:jungletree_trunk"]                 = true
	timber_nodenames["moretrees:jungletree_trunk_sideways"]        = true

	if chainsaw_leaves then
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:apple_tree_leaves"]        = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:oak_leaves"]               = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:fir_leaves"]               = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:fir_leaves_bright"]        = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:sequoia_leaves"]           = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:birch_leaves"]             = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:birch_leaves"]             = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:palm_leaves"]              = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:spruce_leaves"]            = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:spruce_leaves"]            = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:pine_leaves"]              = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:willow_leaves"]            = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:jungletree_leaves_green"]  = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:jungletree_leaves_yellow"] = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:jungletree_leaves_red"]    = true
--cut this fruits down too
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:acorn"]  		       = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:coconut"]                  = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:pine_cone"]                = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:fir_cone"]                 = true
		timber_nodenames["moretrees:spruce_cone"]              = true


	end
end

-- Support growing_trees
if minetest.get_modpath("growing_trees") then
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:trunk"]         = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:medium_trunk"]  = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:big_trunk"]     = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:trunk_top"]     = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:trunk_sprout"]  = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:branch_sprout"] = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:branch"]        = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:branch_xmzm"]   = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:branch_xpzm"]   = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:branch_xmzp"]   = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:branch_xpzp"]   = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:branch_zz"]     = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_trees:branch_xx"]     = true

	if chainsaw_leaves then
		timber_nodenames["growing_trees:leaves"] = true
	end
end

--Support paragenv7
if minetest.get_modpath("paragenv7") then
	timber_nodenames["paragenv7:acaciatree"] 	= true
	timber_nodenames["paragenv7:pinetree"] 		= true
	timber_nodenames["paragenv7:cactus"] 		= true

	if chainsaw_leaves then
		timber_nodenames["paragenv7:acacialeaf"]= true
		timber_nodenames["paragenv7:appleleaf"] = true
		timber_nodenames["paragenv7:jungleleaf"]= true
		timber_nodenames["paragenv7:needles"] 	= true
	end
end

-- Support growing_cactus
if minetest.get_modpath("growing_cactus") then
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:sprout"]                       = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_sprout_vertical"]       = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_sprout_vertical_fixed"] = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_sprout_xp"]             = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_sprout_xm"]             = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_sprout_zp"]             = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_sprout_zm"]             = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:trunk"]                        = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_trunk"]                 = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch"]                       = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_xp"]                    = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_xm"]                    = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_zp"]                    = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_zm"]                    = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_zz"]                    = true
	timber_nodenames["growing_cactus:branch_xx"]                    = true
end

-- Support farming_plus
if minetest.get_modpath("farming_plus") then
	if chainsaw_leaves then
		timber_nodenames["farming_plus:cocoa_leaves"] = true
	end
end


local S = technic.getter

technic.register_power_tool("technic:chainsaw", chainsaw_max_charge)

-- Table for saving what was sawed down
local produced = {}

-- Save the items sawed down so that we can drop them in a nice single stack
local function handle_drops(drops)
	for _, item in ipairs(drops) do
		local stack = ItemStack(item)
		local name = stack:get_name()
--dont give snow stacks, just remove snow from sky
		if name~="default:snowblock" and name~="default:snow" then 
--give only a few leaves
			if chainsaw_all_leaves or (math.random(0, 50)>48 or (
name~="default:leaves" 
and
name~="default:jungleleaves"
and
name~="moretrees:rubber_tree_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:apple_tree_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:oak_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:fir_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:fir_leaves_bright"
and
name~="moretrees:sequoia_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:birch_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:birch_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:palm_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:spruce_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:spruce_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:pine_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:willow_leaves"
and
name~="moretrees:jungletree_leaves_green"
and
name~="moretrees:jungletree_leaves_yellow"
and
name~="moretrees:jungletree_leaves_red"
and
name~="moretrees:acorn"
and
name~="moretrees:coconut"
and
name~="moretrees:pine_cone"
and
name~="moretrees:fir_cone"
and
name~="moretrees:spruce_cone"
and
name~="paragenv7:acacialeaf"
and
name~="paragenv7:appleleaf"
and
name~="paragenv7:jungleleaf"
and
name~="paragenv7:needles"

)) then

		local p = produced[name]
		if not p then
			produced[name] = stack
		else
			p:set_count(p:get_count() + stack:get_count())
		end
		end
end
	end
end

--- Iterator over positions to try to saw around a sawed node.
-- This returns positions in a 3x1x3 area around the position, plus the
-- position above it.  This does not return the bottom position to prevent
-- the chainsaw from cutting down nodes below the cutting position.
-- @param pos Sawing position.
local function iterSawTries(pos)
	-- Copy position to prevent mangling it
	local pos = vector.new(pos)
	local i = 0

	return function()
		i = i + 1
		-- Given a (top view) area like so (where 5 is the starting position):
		-- X -->
		-- Z 123
		-- | 456
		-- V 789
		-- This will return positions 1, 4, 7, 2, 8 (skip 5), 3, 6, 9,
		-- and the position above 5.
		if i == 1 then
			-- Move to starting position
			pos.x = pos.x - 1
			pos.z = pos.z - 1
		elseif i == 4 or i == 7 then
			-- Move to next X and back to start of Z when we reach
			-- the end of a Z line.
			pos.x = pos.x + 1
			pos.z = pos.z - 2
		elseif i == 5 then
			-- Skip the middle position (we've already run on it)
			-- and double-increment the counter.
			pos.z = pos.z + 2
			i = i + 1
		elseif i <= 9 then
			-- Go to next Z.
			pos.z = pos.z + 1
		elseif i == 10 then
			-- Move back to center and up.
			-- The Y+ position must be last so that we don't dig
			-- straight upward and not come down (since the Y-
			-- position isn't checked).
			pos.x = pos.x - 1
			pos.z = pos.z - 1
			pos.y = pos.y + 1
		else
			return nil
		end
		return pos
	end
end

-- This function does all the hard work. Recursively we dig the node at hand
-- if it is in the table and then search the surroundings for more stuff to dig.
local function recursive_dig(pos, remaining_charge)
	if remaining_charge < chainsaw_charge_per_node then
		return remaining_charge
	end
	local node = minetest.get_node(pos)

	if not timber_nodenames[node.name] then
		return remaining_charge
	end

--remove snow too for snowy trees
	if node.name=="default:snow" or node.name=="default:snowblock" then
		local bnode = minetest.get_node({x=pos.x,y=pos.y-1,z=pos.z})
		if (bnode.name~="paragenv7:needles" and bnode.name~="paragenv7:pinetree" and bnode.name~="air") then
		return remaining_charge
		end
	end
	if chainsaw_leaves and (node.name=="paragenv7:needles" or node.name=="paragenv7:pinetree") then
		timber_nodenames["default:snowblock"]        = true
		timber_nodenames["default:snow"]             = true
	end

	-- Wood found - cut it
	handle_drops(minetest.get_node_drops(node.name, ""))
	minetest.remove_node(pos)
	remaining_charge = remaining_charge - chainsaw_charge_per_node

	-- Check surroundings and run recursively if any charge left
	for npos in iterSawTries(pos) do
		if remaining_charge < chainsaw_charge_per_node then
			break
		end
		if timber_nodenames[minetest.get_node(npos).name] then
			remaining_charge = recursive_dig(npos, remaining_charge)
		end
	end

	return remaining_charge
end

-- Function to randomize positions for new node drops
local function get_drop_pos(pos)
	local drop_pos = {}

	for i = 0, 8 do
		-- Randomize position for a new drop
		drop_pos.x = pos.x + math.random(-3, 3)
		drop_pos.y = pos.y - 1
		drop_pos.z = pos.z + math.random(-3, 3)

		-- Move the randomized position upwards until
		-- the node is air or unloaded.
		for y = drop_pos.y, drop_pos.y + 5 do
			drop_pos.y = y
			local node = minetest.get_node_or_nil(drop_pos)

			if not node then
				-- If the node is not loaded yet simply drop
				-- the item at the original digging position.
				return pos
			elseif node.name == "air" then
				-- Add variation to the entity drop position,
				-- but don't let drops get too close to the edge
				drop_pos.x = drop_pos.x + (math.random() * 0.8) - 0.5
				drop_pos.z = drop_pos.z + (math.random() * 0.8) - 0.5
				return drop_pos
			end
		end
	end

	-- Return the original position if this takes too long
	return pos
end

-- Chainsaw entry point
local function chainsaw_dig(pos, current_charge)
	-- Start sawing things down

	local remaining_charge = recursive_dig(pos, current_charge)
	minetest.sound_play("chainsaw", {pos = pos, gain = 1.0,
			max_hear_distance = 10})

	-- Now drop items for the player
	for name, stack in pairs(produced) do
		-- Drop stacks of stack max or less
		local count, max = stack:get_count(), stack:get_stack_max()
		stack:set_count(max)
		while count > max do
			minetest.add_item(get_drop_pos(pos), stack)
			count = count - max
		end
		stack:set_count(count)
		minetest.add_item(get_drop_pos(pos), stack)
	end

	-- Clean up
	produced = {}

	timber_nodenames["default:snowblock"]        = false
	timber_nodenames["default:snow"]             = false

	return remaining_charge
end


minetest.register_tool("technic:chainsaw", {
	description = S("Chainsaw"),
	inventory_image = "technic_chainsaw.png",
	stack_max = 1,
	wear_represents = "technic_RE_charge",
	on_refill = technic.refill_RE_charge,
	on_use = function(itemstack, user, pointed_thing)
		if pointed_thing.type ~= "node" then
			return itemstack
		end

		local meta = minetest.deserialize(itemstack:get_metadata())
		if not meta or not meta.charge or
				meta.charge < chainsaw_charge_per_node then
			return
		end

		local name = user:get_player_name()
		if minetest.is_protected(pointed_thing.under, name) then
			minetest.record_protection_violation(pointed_thing.under, name)
			return
		end

		-- Send current charge to digging function so that the
		-- chainsaw will stop after digging a number of nodes
		meta.charge = chainsaw_dig(pointed_thing.under, meta.charge)

		technic.set_RE_wear(itemstack, meta.charge, chainsaw_max_charge)
		itemstack:set_metadata(minetest.serialize(meta))
		return itemstack
	end,
})

minetest.register_craft({
output = "technic:chainsaw",
recipe = {
{"technic:stainless_steel_ingot", "mesecons_button:button_off", "technic:battery"},
{"technic:fine_copper_wire", "technic:motor", "technic:battery"},
{"", "", "technic:stainless_steel_ingot"},
}
})

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

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I'll let one of the other devs deal with the chainsaw, meanwhile I've updated the mesecons-dependent parts of this mod to use the latest mesecons API. Requires mesecons commit 5be179bf or newer.
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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

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ThatGraemeGuy wrote:
Marshall_maz wrote:
Nore wrote:It is explained in the manual here: https://github.com/minetest-technic/tec ... enrichment. Basically, you'll need a lot of centrifuges, which are MV machines.
Thanx for the link. Doesn't help much though.
I have no idea how to set up the centrifuges with tube segments and can't find anywhere help on how that must actually look :(
OK, the whole process looks really complicated, but if you break it down into a few simple facts, you see it isn't that bad,
  • Uranium (lumps/dust/ingots) can exist in 36 different grades, from 0.0%-fissile to 3.5%-fissile, in increments of 0.1%.
  • The Uranium lumps you get from digging ore are 0.7%-fissile.
  • Placing 2 uranium dust of a particular grade of uranium into a centrifuge will result in 1 dust of the lower grade and 1 dust of the higher grade. For example, placing 2 0.7%-fissile dusts into a centrifuge will result in 1 0.6%-fissile dust and 1 0.8%-fissile dust.
  • In order to make fuel rods that may be used in the nuclear reactor core, you need to compress 5 x 3.5%-fissile uranium.
So what you need to do (and you really do need to do this, trying to do this manually is quite simply insane), is to automate the entire process of moving the various grades of dust around. The most straightforward arrangement is to simply have 1 centrifuge for each grade of dust from 0.1% to 3.4%. Added to that you have sorting tubes on each centrifuge to make sure the dusts go to the right place each time. You have a grinder where you place your mined 0.7% lumps, and it sends the 0.7% dusts to the centrifuge that handles the 0.7% dusts. The sorting tube attached to that centrifuge will then have filters configured to ensure that 0.7% dust is routed to it, 0.6% dust is routed to the centrifuge lower down the cascade and 0.8% dust is routed to the one higher in the cascade.

This general setup applies to all centrifuges except the 2 at the extreme ends of the cascade. The centrifuge outputting 0.0%-fissile dust will not feed into another centrifuge, instead you can whatever you want with those dusts. I chose to feed them into a furnace to make ingots, which in turn outputs to an autocrafter which makes blocks from every 9 ingots. At the other extreme, the centrifuge which takes 3.4% dust as input will have its 3.5% dust outputted to a furnace, which in turn outputs to a compressor, which will compress 5 ingots into a fuel rod. This you can then output to a chest.

Here's a visual.

Hi, I've been trying to get this to work but just can't has something changed recently in the code or am I missing something?

First issue is the sorting pipes, is the setup just to drop the value of dust onto the input port to the cent and leave the rest on and empty? In the pic on the right side the red row. The output refined dust will come back through this and be different values or does that not matter?


Second issue, it looks like that the dust piles are floating around individually, I read that if a single dust unit gets into a centrifuge it will block it, how do you make sure that the dust stays in multiples of 2?

1 ore unit -> grinder -> 2x 0.7 cent -> 1 unit each of 0.6 and 0.8 blocks both those cents...

is the simple answer to never put an odd number of raw ore into the grinder?

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

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Joby wrote:Hi, I've been trying to get this to work but just can't has something changed recently in the code or am I missing something?
There are changes every now and then, but as far as I'm aware nothing that affects centrifuge cascade setups. At least mine have not required any changes.
Joby wrote:First issue is the sorting pipes, is the setup just to drop the value of dust onto the input port to the cent and leave the rest on and empty? In the pic on the right side the red row. The output refined dust will come back through this and be different values or does that not matter?
First, a few things:
  • You can input things from any side
  • Output (assuming you have at least control logic unit in an upgrade slot) is always to the machine's right side. If you stand with the machine directly in front of you, the front is the side that lights up when the machine is active
So if you are referring to my earlier screenshot, you can see the machines on the right have the red side attached on the machine, the white side goes up and the black side goes down. If you take the 0.7% centrifuge as an example:
  • Red = 0.7%
  • White = 0.8%
  • Black = 0.6%
Joby wrote:Second issue, it looks like that the dust piles are floating around individually, I read that if a single dust unit gets into a centrifuge it will block it, how do you make sure that the dust stays in multiples of 2?

1 ore unit -> grinder -> 2x 0.7 cent -> 1 unit each of 0.6 and 0.8 blocks both those cents...

is the simple answer to never put an odd number of raw ore into the grinder?
They do move around as single dusts, but this isn't an issue because you will have set up the sorting tubes to route things properly. Each centrifuge will handle only 1 grade of dust. I'm not sure what you are referring to when you mention dust blocking centrifuges. If a centrifuge has only 1 dust in the input slot it simply doesn't activate until such time it has received another. There's no need to try and keep even numbers of inputs.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by Joby » Post

Thanks so much for your reply! that answers all my questions I'll try it out tonight, I had only configured the Red line, left white and black empty, that must be what I did wrong, that and getting them spun the right way :)

The "blocking" I was referring too was a misunderstanding by me of something I read, I thought I had read that if only 1 unit of U gets in into a cent it will not work and be blocked, what was actually meant was if a different % of U gets into a cent say a 0.6 in the 0.7 it will be blocked.

EDIT: Yup that worked!! thanks again.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

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You're welcome!

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

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I can't make the crafting recipe work for the fine copper wire.
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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

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GeneralNIff wrote:I can't make the crafting recipe work for the fine copper wire
The recipe seems right. Are you sure you enabled the mod? Try starting the game in creative mode and see if the items appear in the creative inventory.

If not, select the world in the mainmenu, click "Configure", select technic, and click "Enable Modpack".
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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

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I'm loving this mod, thank you so much for making it! I'm still new to all of this, but is there a way to toggle the current off/on in your voltage cables? I'd like to be able to set up a forcefield around my nuclear reactor, but not get stuck inside the forcefield as well, so is there a way to integrate a switch into the cable to turn on the forcefield from the outside? If not, would you consider adding the means to do so in the next update? That would be really cool, thanks.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

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Jesseman1 wrote:Is there a way to integrate a switch into the cable to turn on the forcefield from the outside?
Yes (just dig/place a cable node), but you probably don't want to do this. The forcefield and it's power source has to be self-contained or anyone can get through your field by disabling your power source (this can be mitigated with protection though).
What I'd do is set up a steel door at the edge of the field. The emitter won't replace it, but only you'll be able to open and close it to get through.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

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ShadowNinja wrote:What I'd do is set up a steel door at the edge of the field. The emitter won't replace it, but only you'll be able to open and close it to get through.
I actually figured that out shortly after posting, lol. I even used the prefab mod (adds tons of concrete stuff) to make everything inside the forcefield look like an intimidating high-security fortress! I just wish I knew how to make it a multyplayer server, I've designed it to allow other players use the excess power outside of the forcefield(two reactors FTW!).

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by Miner59 » Post

Hi,
with newest version from github I always get a lua error in /technic/machines/register/recipes.lua, line 30
Can you please change

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local function register_recipe(typename, data)
	-- Handle aliases
	for i, stack in ipairs(data.input) do
		data.input[i] = ItemStack(stack):to_string()
	end
in

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local function register_recipe(typename, data)
	-- Handle aliases
	if type(data.input) == "table" then
		for i, stack in ipairs(data.input) do
			data.input[i] = ItemStack(stack):to_string()
		end
	else
		data.input={}
		data.input[1] = ItemStack(data.input):to_string()
	end
Then it should work without problems.

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Re: [Mod] Technic [0.4.10] [technic]

by ShadowNinja » Post

Miner59 wrote:With the latest version from GitHub I always get a Lua error in .../technic/machines/register/recipes.lua line 30.
It seems like another mod is using the technic registration API in an invalid way (input isn't a table). Your code won't actually work because it clears the input before reading it. Change the minetest.after call in technic.register_recipe to a direct register_recipe call to find out what mod is calling technic.register_recipe invalidly and report a bug with that mod.

Alternatively, a variant of your code could be applied for convenience, but it only saves two characters and it would be classified as a feature request, not a bug fix.

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