[Mod] Mesecons (= redstone) [GitHub] [minetest-mod-mesecons]

[Inocudom]

The vertical mesecons don't seem to conduct any signals. Will this be fixed?

I think this mod would have an easier time functioning if Minetest's modding api supported it better. There would then be less lag, thus this mod's full potential would be achieved.

[PilzAdam]

I think this mod would have an easier time functioning if Minetest's modding api supported it better. There would then be less lag, thus this mod's full potential would be achieved.

What needs to be changed in the API?

[Temperest]

VoidLord: can you re download the latest version and then open the following file:

MESECONS_FOLDER/mesecons_mvps/init.lua

Then, copy and paste the contents of the file into a pastebin, like pasteall.org. Post the resulting URL here.

I am trying to verify which version you have, since evidence suggests you have an old version.

[Rancon]

I can't destroy the solar panels?

[Temperest]

You can. Punch them just like any other block. If you're on a public server, you might not have interact privs, in which case you can't destroy anything at all.

[Inocudom]

I think this mod would have an easier time functioning if Minetest's modding api supported it better. There would then be less lag, thus this mod's full potential would be achieved.

What needs to be changed in the API?

This is a question that only those working on mesecons would be able to answer. Try asking Jeija first.

[PilzAdam]

I think this mod would have an easier time functioning if Minetest's modding api supported it better. There would then be less lag, thus this mod's full potential would be achieved.

What needs to be changed in the API?

This is a question that only those working on mesecons would be able to answer. Try asking Jeija first.

But how do you know that a change in the API is needed then?

[Inocudom]

When I use mesecons or see it used (especially on servers,) it does create a small amount of lag. This was most noticeable when I once saw someone make a device that played noteblocks in an infinite loop. Because of this, I suspected that the API might need a few improvements.

If there is a way to reduce the lag, Jeija should know what to do.

[Temperest]

This lag may be caused by a number of things.

First, server lag, which is pretty much unavoidable.

Second, the new server step delay, which is introduced on purpose in order to make circuits more reliable and predicatable. You can turn it off, of course, in the settings.lua file.

Third, the unavoidable computation lag, caused by the code running slowly. LuaJIT is enormously helpful for this though.

There mig also be other delays per item, such as delayers and microcontrollers. The latest versions also no longer suffer from the note block out of sync issues.

[VanessaE]

The biggest source of lag when using mesecons isn't in mesecons itself. It's in the rendering engine or somewhere else in the Minetest client, in that every time some object is swapped out for something else, the client will briefly stall depending on how much is changed.

Example: Build a wall of light stones, say 10m long, 2m high, 1m thick, wire them all together and connect them to a blinky plant. Now pan your view slowly back and forth across the structure while the plant is blinking (you may have to make a delayer-based clock circuit instead, if the blinky plant is too slow). Every time the plant cycles and the wires and wall turn on or off, the client will stall for a split second. This is most noticable with a high-resolution texture pack.

[H6nry]

I do get some wrong textures when placing for example a water turbine or just a mesecon. What am I doing wrong?

[Temperest]

Try turning off the texture atlas in minetest.conf:

Code: Select all

enable_texture_atlas = false

[jy2810]

I don't get what mese blocks do in mesecons, can someone please explain it to me

[Evergreen]

I don't get what mese blocks do in mesecons, can someone please explain it to me

Okay. It is basically just another conductor. Just like regular mesecons.

[Temperest]

It's a conductor, like Evergreen said, but instead of conducting in the standard four directions with diagonals vertically, it conducts in the four directions on the same level, and vertically, directly up and down.

To see the difference for yourself, see the article "Mesecons Basics", there's a link in my signature.

[Rancon]

You can. Punch them just like any other block. If you're on a public server, you might not have interact privs, in which case you can't destroy anything at all.

Well.. I end up destroying the thing under it....

[Topywo]

You can. Punch them just like any other block. If you're on a public server, you might not have interact privs, in which case you can't destroy anything at all.

Well.. I end up destroying the thing under it....

You can dig them when you see the black outline or border around them (at least according to the selection box), just like torches.

Edit: nevermind. I just installed mescons and tried to dig a solar panel (creative and not in creative, with and without tools). The break very fast. So I guess that can't be the problem...

Edit2:
- If you're playing on a server, are you the only one having that issue?
- If playing singleplayer: you could use the latest minetest version with the latest mesecons. or
- copy/paste here the init.lua you have in the folder: Jeija-minetest-mod-mesecons-8ea71a9/mesecons_solarpanel

[Rancon]

You can. Punch them just like any other block. If you're on a public server, you might not have interact privs, in which case you can't destroy anything at all.

Well.. I end up destroying the thing under it....

You can dig them when you see the black outline or border around them (at least according to the selection box), just like torches.

Edit: nevermind. I just installed mescons and tried to dig a solar panel (creative and not in creative, with and without tools). The break very fast. So I guess that can't be the problem...

Edit2:
- If you're playing on a server, are you the only one having that issue?
- If playing singleplayer: you could use the latest minetest version with the latest mesecons. or
- copy/paste here the init.lua you have in the folder: Jeija-minetest-mod-mesecons-8ea71a9/mesecons_solarpanel

I'm on a server and I can't see the selection box AT ALL.. Idk if any others have it

[Temperest]

Is your HUD enabled? Are you sure it's a Mesecons solar panel, and not, say, a technic one?

[pheonixfire]

Jeija, do you need a place holder image for the wireless receiver and transmitter?

pheonixfire

[musicfreak34]

Is there a way to create big sliding-doors? maybe with Sticky Movestones?

I can only build doors 2 blocks wide with the sticky pistons:

[Jeija]

IIRC you should be able to find an automatic sliding door using sticky movestones here:
https://github.com/Novatux/Sliding_door ... p?raw=true

That awesome construction was built by Novatux/Nore.
Just copy the contained folder "Build" into your worlds folder.

[sfan5]

Is there a way to create big sliding-doors? maybe with Sticky Movestones?

I can only build doors 2 blocks wide with the sticky pistons:

http://imgur.com/a/EVuvD

[musicfreak34]

Thank you Jeija and sfan5 its really difficult to build but I think I can do it.
I show you a pic if its finished.

[addi]

there is a bug with the vertical mesecons :-P
1. build something like this

2. stand on the pressure plate

3. remove one of the vertical mesecons


4. leave the pressure plate


5. watch the "magic" light glowing