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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

by TenPlus1 » Post

You have a good point, having settings for jungles and such in default game would have been very nice indeed when setting up a map... also, mod settings would be a nice feature for minetest_game so you could maybe have a settings button next to the listed mods and configure without editing text files...

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

by Inocudom » Post

TenPlus1, you may not be aware of this, but recent commits to Minetest allow for this mod to be used with mapgenv5. Have you ever attempted to do such?

Unfortunately, mapgenv5 does generate IGNORE areas sometimes, but Jordach found a solution to them that might be useful to you somehow:
https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking ... 476d7fd42a
It turns those areas into blocks of air nodes, but maybe you could turn them into ore clusters instead to give Ethereal an exotic new feature?
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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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Important changes to the biome API heat and humidity noises viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10621&p=164110#p164110
If you update to latest 0.4.10 dev, or, when you update to 0.4.11 stable, you will need to set the old default noise parameters in minetest.conf for biome continuity in your existing mgv5 or mgv7 worlds.

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Re: [0.0.7]Ethereal[ethereal]

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TenPlus1 wrote:I was trying for a more realistic approach to tree's so that they could only be grown in the biome they originated from, although a special dirt block could be created so that they will grow anywhere needed...

Am going for the Crystal (soft-touch) Shovel instead so that users can dig up dirt with the grass intact and place it anywhere they like for decoration or growing of specific saplings...
aha! thanks! might try this.

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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Imagethe previous page looks interesting
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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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That would be the latest xUbuntu? (14.10 + all the updates)
Have the same issue in Firefox.

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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4aiman wrote:That would be the latest xUbuntu? (14.10 + all the updates)
Have the same issue in Firefox.
maybe there's a mistake

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

by philipbenr » Post

4aiman wrote:That would be the latest xUbuntu? (14.10 + all the updates)
Have the same issue in Firefox.
I am using Win8 and latest Firefox, and I have the same problem (why did my post get cut off?)

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

by 4aiman » Post

Whew...
Guys over here didn't believe me when I had posted an image with the same problem, so I thought I'm the only one who's "glitching".

AFAIK, Rubenwardy can change the layout. Maybe it's worth trying to ask him?

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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maybe it's the spoiler bug

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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Found a bug: dofile mapgen_v7s should be after all other dofiles because you need to define the mod nodes before registering biomes and decorations Also see my biome API thread for latest news.

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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Hello! I'm quite new here since i discovered Minetest just few weeks ago and it has been my first voxel-based game (yes, never played that one...).
I'm trying to put together some mods in order to obtain some kind of "survival and build into wilderness" game with some variety but not bloated with an overwhelming quantity of different blocks, focusing instead on taking the best from what i find; after all i grew up with classic LEGOs.
I want to use this mod because i think it has the right variability and also looks very good, so thanks for the great work! However, i have an issue with some biomes size. My "game's requirements" are being able to survive after spawning from any point with empty inventory, hunger and mobs, but if i would spawn in the middle of such wide "Bamboo biome" which seems to happen quite often I'd not be able to find an apple or build tools needed for any other kind of food before starving.Image
Moreover, it seems that some biomes like "Bamboo", "Desert", "Mushrooms" and "Red hell" (sorry but i don't know real names) happen very often while others are much smaller and rare (never found Pines or Crystals), and it doesn't help because most of the area has no wood!
How can i change some biomes size and "chanches" to be generated? I tried to play with umidity and temperature spread from mg flags but i still can't see differences nor correlations.

EDIT: I forgot mentioning, it doesn't look system specific but if it helps i run the last dev from git on Linux 64 and set V7 as mapgen
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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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The latest Ethereal mod is written for Minetest 0.4.11 stable and works perfectly with a good spread of biomes, but on the later dev versions they have changed the v7 mapgen and how it works so Ethereal has a few problems... Check the init.lua file and comment out the mapgen and uncomment the one below it made for dev versions...

Note: Here is the download that works for 0.4.12 and dev versions...
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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

by Echoes91 » Post

Thanks! Now it looks amazing and it's always survivable, and even pines appeared! I didn't notice the commented mapgen alternative, maybe it's time to change the default gedit's blue comment on dark background...
Cold biomes look still uncommon, maybe mgv7 has some tendency toward producing tropical archipelagos?

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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I will be working on Ethereal's v7 biomes in the coming weeks to make them fully 0.4.12 compliant with all the new settings... Surprisingly it is possible to find huge cold biomes depending on the seed in use...

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

by Echoes91 » Post

I think last entries of stairs.lua are redundant with default ones, where obsidian bricks are already included as staris and slabs. Wiki mentions them but still has no pics so it's probably a recent addition

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		{"default_obsidian_brick.png"},
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		"Obsidian Brick Slab",
		default.node_sound_stone_defaults())

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

by fireglow » Post

Can I use this mapgen in an already existing world?
Currently, my minetest.conf has the mg_name setting commented out, so I guess it's at default.
What kind of issues can I expect?

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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If you enable Ethereal in an existing v6 world you may end up with many glitches like floating tree's and such... If it is an existing v7 world then you technically could run ethereal after making sure your old v7 mods are disabled and it would take over any new areas generated...

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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Ah, very interesting, I have the problem with floating trees when I load the mod "moretrees" on my current map: https://fireglow.de/755/temp/snapshot173.png (disregard the date, version; tried it again yesterday with 0.4.12, same issue)
I must admit, I don't even know which mapgen created the original world, is there any way to find out?
What is the current default for mg_name?

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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Floating tree's are typically caused by caves and ridges being generated on v7 worlds when they carve out parts of the landscape but leave parts of tree's and floating grass/flowers... I tried to compensate for this by making ethereal dirt types immune to cave generation...

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

by poet.nohit » Post

Any interest in renaming the biomes? See https://github.com/poet-nohit/minetest- ... 16fd5055ea

I think this naming convention is going to become necessary in the latest version of Minetest.

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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poet.nohit: I cannont find anything in the latest documentation about naming changes, even paramat's own v7/v5 biomes for the default game remains the same: https://github.com/paramat/biomesdev

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

by paramat » Post

My simple biomes in default/mapgen.lua do have names starting with 'default:...', on request of PilzAdam.
I'm not sure if it is, or will be, essential but it seems a good idea to follow the naming conventions of nodes.

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

by poet.nohit » Post

Anyway, I've also been noticing how little sapling yield you get from tree leaves. The acacia trees, in particular, have a very low sapling production. I don't see how you could possibly cultivate them. I was also a little perplexed by the fact that ethereal makes papyrus walkable.

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Re: [Mod] Ethereal [1.07] [ethereal]

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In my opinion sugar reeds and bamboo are thick enough to block the player's path and be walkable: http://cache.wallpaperdownloader.com/bi ... 110125.jpg

...and as for saplings, it's random chance... sometimes you get 1 and other times you get 3 or maybe none... I didn't want to make it too easy...

Parmat: I'f Pilzadam is requesting then I'll rename biomes to be mod specific...

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