[Modpack] Dreambuilder [20191103-1616][dreambuilder]

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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20190918-2033][dreambuilder]

by VanessaE » Wed Sep 18, 2019 18:00

Build #2019--- er, 20190918-1425: updated signs_lib (three times)

EDIT: build #20190918-2033, updated signs_lib again :-P
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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20190919-2056][dreambuilder]

by VanessaE » Thu Sep 19, 2019 05:08

Build #20190919-0107, updated sigs_lib and basic_signs

EDIT: build #20190919-1929, updated ilights and homedecor

EDIT: build#20190919-2056, update homedecor and ilights again
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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20190921-2255][dreambuilder]

by VanessaE » Sun Sep 22, 2019 02:09

Build #20190921-2207, updated signs_lib, basic_signs, and street_signs

EDIT: build #20190921-2255, updated street_signs again
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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20190922-2150][dreambuilder]

by VanessaE » Sun Sep 22, 2019 07:28

Build #20190922-0327, updated signs_lib, coloredwood, homedecor, and gloopblocks

EDIT: build #201-- um, 20190922-0602, updated signs_lib again (twice)

EDIT: build #20190922-2150, updated unified dyes
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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20190922-2150][dreambuilder]

by P3ib0L » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:23

Hi Vanessa, first congratulation for this IMPRESSIVE work. It's amazing.
I'm trying to install your mod on minetest 0.4.17. I have made a clean installation of minetest and of the mod.
But when start a world appears this message:
WARNING[Main]: Mod name conflict detected: "farming"
WARNING[Main]: Will not load: /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/farming
WARNING[Main]: Overridden by: /home/p/.minetest/mods/dreambuilder/farming
ERROR[Main]: mod "homedecor_wardrobe" has unsatisfied dependencies: "player_api"
ERROR[Main]: mod "player_textures" has unsatisfied dependencies: "player_api"
WARNING[Main]: [xban] Unable to load database: /home/p/.minetest/worlds/prova dreams/xban.db: El fitxer o directori no existeix
WARNING[Main]: Undeclared global variable "worldedit" accessed at ...etest/mods/dreambuilder/worldedit_shortcommands/init.lua:4
ModError: Failed to load and run script from /home/p/.minetest/mods/dreambuilder/worldedit_shortcommands/init.lua:
ERROR[Main]: ...etest/mods/dreambuilder/worldedit_shortcommands/init.lua:15: attempt to index global 'worldedit' (a nil value)
ERROR[Main]: stack traceback:
ERROR[Main]: ...etest/mods/dreambuilder/worldedit_shortcommands/init.lua:15: in main chunk

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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20190922-2150][dreambuilder]

by neoh4x0r » Wed Oct 02, 2019 20:16

P3ib0L wrote:Hi Vanessa, first congratulation for this IMPRESSIVE work. It's amazing.
I'm trying to install your mod on minetest 0.4.17. I have made a clean installation of minetest and of the mod.
But when start a world appears this message:
WARNING[Main]: Undeclared global variable "worldedit" accessed at ...etest/mods/dreambuilder/worldedit_shortcommands/init.lua:4


worldedit_shortcommands requiires worldedit_commands and worldedit and you either do not have them installed (or they are not enabled), but it should not be necessary to use dream builder.

You need to install both of those mods, or disable worldedit_shortcommands .

P3ib0L wrote:WARNING[Main]: Mod name conflict detected: "farming"
WARNING[Main]: Will not load: /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/farming
WARNING[Main]: Overridden by: /home/p/.minetest/mods/dreambuilder/farming


This is just a warning, I blieve that dreambuilder's farming mod is a replacement mod (this can be ignored)
 

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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20191003-1425][dreambuilder]

by VanessaE » Thu Oct 03, 2019 18:30

Thanks for that, neoh4x0r -- I was offline and could not reply.

P3ib0L, you wrote, "I'm trying to install your mod on minetest 0.4.17." --- Dreambuilder is for Minetest 5.0.0 and up. It is not meant to be run on 0.4.x anymore.

Meanwhile, here is build #20191003-1425: updated areas, basic_signs, street_signs, farming_redo, maptools, mesecons, moreblocks, moretrees, pipeworks, signs_lib, and worldedit.
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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20191012-1124][dreambuilder]

by VanessaE » Sat Oct 12, 2019 15:27

Build #20191012-1124, updated signs_lib and basic_signs
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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20191012-1124][dreambuilder]

by ShallowDweller » Thu Oct 31, 2019 23:49

1st of all: thanks for putting this huge pack together. I love it!
Now to the questions:
Did the hardware requirements of this modpack increase? Because I tried to run a few worlds with this pack and got the following results:
1)Full Dreambuilder alone: game loads slowly, but loads just fine.
2)Full Dreambuilder + ethereal: game stuck at loading screen.
3)Dreambuilder -50 mods I din't need (I'll call it Low Dreambuilder for short): game loads fine and fast.
4)Low Dreambuilder + ethereal: game stuck at loading screen.
5)Low Dreambuilder + another 11 mods that should be lighter than ethereal (minus ethereal): game stuck at loading screen.
6)Any amount and combination of mods I had (minus Dreambuilder pack): game loads fine and fast.

There doesn't seem to be a fatal error (I could be wrong though) resulting in this, just the game running out of memory, which I'm finding odd because my available RAM tends to float between 3,5GB and 4,2GB and the 1st post says I only need 2GB available. There is also the fact that moving 50 mods(~10MB) away from the pack wasn't enough to make room for another 30 or so mods(~8MB) from other packs.

I'm using the win64 version of minetest 5.1.0 on windows 7 professional 64bit with 6GB of RAM in total. I belive there is more information I should provide, but I'm not sure which... Should I attach debug.txt here? (I think the paste text would be too big to just paste here because the several attempts)

Or would it be easier to just see the packs this mod uses and download each of the ones I want the most individualy? (I just want to confirm what is going on and if there is another solution than this)
 

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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20191012-1124][dreambuilder]

by VanessaE » Fri Nov 01, 2019 07:00

The hardware requirements should be about the same as usual, but of course it depends on your OS, whether you also use a heavy texture pack like HDX, and how developed your world is.

For a new world, 2GB of free RAM beyond whatever your OS and other apps use should be more than enough, though the RAM usage will increase as the world and your usage of heavy things like Technic or Mesecons grows. CPU-wise, really you just want something that came out after the last ice age. Don't go trying to run it on an old classic Pentium. :-)

I run two Dreambuilder servers, along with 5 other less-heavy servers, on a single Debian Linux machine. Together they use about 4 GB at first, climbing to about 8 GB over the course of the day (some memory leak in MT or one of the mods, but the servers all reboot every 24h, so meh), and a bit under two cores' worth of CPU. The machine is based around a 4-core/8-thread Xeon E3-1245 at 3.4 GHz, with 32GB of DDR3-1333 RAM.

I don't know why the game would freeze-up when adding other mods to the mix. I've simply never had that happen (unless of course, I create an infinite loop in a mod I'm hacking on at the time, but that's rare and I don't think that's ever made it into a release build), though I've never used Ethereal. One important thing: if your Minetest build uses LuaJIT, it *must* use the GC64 variant, otherwise Minetest will hit a braindead screwup the LuaJIT author made at first, and will run out of memory (even if there's plenty).

Please continue to experiment and let me know if there's one specific mod in Dreambuilder that's hanging it up. Might need to file a bug report against it (upstream).
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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20191012-1124][dreambuilder]

by ShallowDweller » Sat Nov 02, 2019 01:27

Thanks for the fast reply!
All of those problems happened when I attempted to create new worlds. I think I only managed to open 3 out of 9 test worlds...

VanessaE wrote:I don't know why the game would freeze-up when adding other mods to the mix. I've simply never had that happen (unless of course, I create an infinite loop in a mod I'm hacking on at the time, but that's rare and I don't think that's ever made it into a release build), though I've never used Ethereal. One important thing: if your Minetest build uses LuaJIT, it *must* use the GC64 variant, otherwise Minetest will hit a braindead screwup the LuaJIT author made at first, and will run out of memory (even if there's plenty).

Please continue to experiment and let me know if there's one specific mod in Dreambuilder that's hanging it up. Might need to file a bug report against it (upstream).

Forgive the noob question, but how do I check if LuaJIT and the GC64 variant are being used? That sounds like it might be the problem I'm facing. Because the Minetest process never got above 300MB while loading before freezing and on the world with the full dreambuilder, it used only 1,6GB RAM after loading.
I'll try to see if there is a specific mod in dreambuilder that may be causing this, as you've requested. Good thing the new engine warns about missing dependencies when picking the mods now XD
The 1st time I ever had a problem with this modpack was when homedecor was added to the mix(because the signs_lib) but there was a clear error message in the loading screen(by the way, thanks for fixing that so fast)...

ps. In case anyone who plans on splitting dreambuilder is reading this: attempting to load a world with all dreambuilder mods after slpiting the pack in 2 may cause a security error. It can be easily fixed by reuniting the pack.
 

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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20191012-1124][dreambuilder]

by VanessaE » Sat Nov 02, 2019 08:18

GC64 is one of those things where you'll be told beforehand if you'd be using it (i.e. if you build it yourself, or get it from one of the unofficial builds on these Forums). I don't know offhand if there's a way to check for it properly.
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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20191012-1124][dreambuilder]

by ShallowDweller » Sat Nov 02, 2019 22:14

VanessaE wrote:GC64 is one of those things where you'll be told beforehand if you'd be using it (i.e. if you build it yourself, or get it from one of the unofficial builds on these Forums). I don't know offhand if there's a way to check for it properly.

I see... I'll ask in the release post. Thanks for the information! :)

Well... Now I'm feeling dumb... Because I have good and bad news:
Good news: according to the tests I've run so far, the culprit seems to be a small pair of mods I downloaded in order to automaticaly solve conflicting recipes (namely: "crafting" and "simplecrafting_lib"), rather than anything from dreambuilder.
Bad news: I'll have to solve all further conflicting recipes manualy, and probably search and contact the developer of the aforementioned pair of mods, but I doubt there is anything they can do about it...

As for the tests: Test worlds were named T{number} for convenience. All worlds were loaded in creative mode with damage disabled, with a random seed, on mapgen V7. Unless stated otherwise, "Full pack" or "pack" is the dreambuilder modpack. "RAM used" is minetest.exe's process' RAM usage. Mods outside the parentesis are not from the pack. The brief freezes seem to always happen at the same 2 points: 1st at "Creating server..." and 2nd at "Initializing nodes ... 7%", always causing the window to show a "(Not responding)" label before recovering and working again.

T001: LOADED. 1.625 MB RAM used.
MODs: Full pack alone.
Note: loaded twice because I forgot to check the RAM.
T002: LOADED. 455 MB RAM used.
MODs: xdecor + (anvil + crafting_bench + invsaw + moreblocks + unified_inventory).
T003: LOADED. 1.676 MB RAM used.
MODs: xdecor + Full pack.
Note: briefely freezes twice while loading, but opens the world.
T004: LOADED. 1.707 MB RAM used.
MODs: ethereal + Full pack.
Note: briefely freezes twice while loading, but opens the world. I was actualy surprized it didn't perma-freeze this time...
T005: Stuck on "Creating server..." for several minutes. 440 MB RAM used, slowly increasing to 460 MB RAM used over 5 minutes (~+4MB/min).
MODs: crafting + simplecrafting_lib + Full pack.
Note: I closed the engine and have reasons to belive this mod meant to solve the crafting conflicts might be responsible for the loading times...
T006: LOADED. 1.764 MB RAM used.
MODs: ethereal + biofuel + digtron + escape_wings + factory + modutil + orewood_reborn + special_picks + xdecor + Full pack.
Note: briefely freezes twice while loading, but opens the world and loads faster than expected.
T007: LOADED, but crashed.
MODs: all of those mentioned in T006 + basic_houses + several random mods.
Note: briefely freezes twice while loading, but opens the world. And then crashes after loading the hotbar, but before loading the nodes. The crash seems to be caused by one of sokomine's mods, but I may have done something wrong that resulted in it.
Note to self: talk to sokomine and show the debug's log soonTM.
T008: LOADED. 1.800 MB RAM used.
MODs: Those mentioned in T007 minus basic_houses and handle_schematics.
Note: briefely freezes twice while loading, but opens the world.
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I can't belive I didn't suspect that pair of mods before... They are so small... And so demanding... I only suspected them after I managed to load the world with ethereal in it...
Would you like me to run more tests?

I can't seem to be able to add the debug text from the tests above here in the forum...
Anyway, thanks for the attention and patience... And sorry about my noobness...
 

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Re: [Modpack] Dreambuilder [20191103-1616][dreambuilder]

by VanessaE » Sun Nov 03, 2019 18:26

Build #20191103-1317, added runsy's cool_trees modpack (all components), and updated castles, farming redo, maptools, mesecons, moreblocks, moreores, signs_lib, technic, unified inventory, and worldedit.

Known issues: when a cool_trees tree grows, it may not always replace its sapling. A bug report has already been filed.

EDIT: Build #20191103-1616, updated cool_trees again (sapling bug was fixed)

We're kinda in "beta" mode, so I won't be uploading these latest builds to contentdb yet.
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