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A certain group of developers being dissatisfied with the decisions other community members were making has decided to fork Minetest and work on it as they find appropriate.

You can find this project, called Freeminer, here.

Changelog: https://github.com/freeminer/freeminer/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

Nightly builds: http://build.freeminer.org/

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by PilzAdam » Post

What are your goals for it?

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by xyz » Post

PilzAdam wrote:What are your goals for it?
It aims to make the game fun while trading off some bits of perfectionism.

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by Krock » Post

Ehm nice project... just there aren't masses of players which are searching lots of servers and a >better< game than the good minetest.

In short: Let's see what happens :)
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by rubenwardy » Post

This fork is compatible with minetest servers

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by CraigyDavi » Post

Cool. :)

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by hassage » Post

This is a nice project.

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by Inocudom » Post

For one, I like the name Freeminer better than Minetest. For two, things like vbo and lower server lag are great things to have.

This fork of Minetest will need a couple of dedicated build makers (one for 32-bit, and one for 64-bit.)
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by Enke » Post

Huh... It'll be interesting to see where this goes. Maybe one day it will surpass Minetest, as sometimes a fork will become better and more popular than the original. Who knows?

Also, who's working on it?
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by hoodedice » Post

The website is awesome though. I always wanted that website for Minetest. Meh, at least some related project adopted it.

There is still a lot of 'branding' left over from Minetest. Look at the console pic in the left side of the screen. If they want to fork out, I guess they should rework the branding. Or maybe they want to stay connected with Minetest?
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by rubenwardy » Post

Minetest + Branding? What?

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by Casimir » Post

So what is the structural difference to the Minetest development? Are you doing something different or is it just "Minetest without the people we don't like"?
I'm curious what this will become.

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rubenwardy wrote:Minetest + Branding? What?
The Minetest(tm) stone logo, the dirt-with-grass background, the cloud animated background, the 'Tree, Cactus, Ore, Cave, and Lake' logo, and the Minetest(tm) ASCII art (In the console debugger) are trademarks of Pertu Ahola aka Celeron-55 aka C-55(c)(R) and used with permission. Minetest c-55 is licenced under the LGPL 2. All Rights Reserved. Minetest 2010 - 2013.

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by mauvebic » Post

Casimir wrote:So what is the structural difference to the Minetest development? Are you doing something different or is it just "Minetest without the people we don't like"?
OP wrote:being dissatisfied with the decisions other community members were making
I rather get the impression they want to take a different direction. That means more features will be tried and tested, and with fewer debates over design at MT, development should pick up for both projects.

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by rubenwardy » Post

The logo was made by someone else who owns the cc-by-sa-nc license.
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by Calinou » Post

rubenwardy wrote:It is an opensource project, so I dont think he would trademark the name, or logo, or screen.
A fairly large amount of open source projects use non-free art or trademarks, such as Firefox and Thunderbird.

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by Casimir » Post

mauvebic wrote:I rather get the impression they want to take a different direction. That means more features will be tried and tested, and with fewer debates over design at MT, development should pick up for both projects.
But what I mean is, a good intention is worth nothing if it is not backed by changes in the structure. Observed from the outside it is just someone else deciding.
I hope that it will be easier to contribute to Freeminer than to Minetest.
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by BlockMen » Post

hoodedice wrote:
rubenwardy wrote:Minetest + Branding? What?
The Minetest(tm) stone logo, the dirt-with-grass background, the cloud animated background, the 'Tree, Cactus, Ore, Cave, and Lake' logo, and the Minetest(tm) ASCII art (In the console debugger) are trademarks of Pertu Ahola aka Celeron-55 aka C-55(c)(R) and used with permission. Minetest c-55 is licenced under the LGPL 2. All Rights Reserved. Minetest 2010 - 2013.

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The Minetest stone logo is CC-BY 3.0 BlockMen :P

But in general: README.txt helps a lot ;)
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/bl ... E.txt#L262

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by mauvebic » Post

Casimir wrote: But what I mean is, a good intention is worth nothing if it is not backed by changes in the structure. Observed from the outside it is just someone else deciding.
I hope that it will be easier to contribute to Freeminer than to Minetest.
I think the point of forking is to let other people decide, otherwise most projects would elect their leads.
As for changes, there's a changelog here.

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by Thermal_Shock » Post

Best case scenario is that this could spur some new ideas and improvements for both sides.

Best of luck to you guys. I'll keep an eye on it.

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by PilzAdam » Post

hoodedice wrote:
rubenwardy wrote:Minetest + Branding? What?
The Minetest(tm) stone logo, the dirt-with-grass background, the cloud animated background, the 'Tree, Cactus, Ore, Cave, and Lake' logo, and the Minetest(tm) ASCII art (In the console debugger) are trademarks of Pertu Ahola aka Celeron-55 aka C-55(c)(R) and used with permission. Minetest c-55 is licenced under the LGPL 2. All Rights Reserved. Minetest 2010 - 2013.

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lol, its funny how nobody here gets the joke.

EDIT: Shouldnt this thread be in "Minetest related projects"?
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by Enke » Post

I spoke with xyz on the Freeminer forums, he said that they will definitely change the name of the launcher, and the icon. It was also stated that he is working on the main menu.

And I suppose it should be in "Minetest related projects"
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by hassage » Post

Enke wrote:I spoke with xyz on the Freeminer forums, he said that they will definitely change the name of the launcher, and the icon. It was also stated that he is working on the main menu.

And I suppose it should be in "Minetest related projects"
Ok, thanks for infos.

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by Claire » Post

So like... Are there any different features in it that Minetest doesnt have?

I downloaded it and the application is still titled Minetest! HAHA!

Well, I tried it out. I looks and plays exactly like Minetest... But hopefully in the next few weeks or months it will start to differentiate(not sure if I used that word right) from Minetest.

P.S. I saw a picture of what the Main menu is supposed to look like, and I like it a lot better that the Minetest main menu; it looks more modern.

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by Casimir » Post

Quoting xyz:
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