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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by BrandonReese » Mon Aug 31, 2015 16:19

Sane wrote:
BrandonReese wrote:Just pushed an update for the for the mining / building experience formula. Under this new formula at 100,000 nodes you will receive 17 experience per 100 and will have accumulated almost 9000 experience. Does that seem a little more reasonable?

I don't get why experience should increase with the the amount of digged nodes. Killing the hundredth mob does not increase the xp gained. So why should the hundredth dig? If there has to be a variation why not make it relate to the distance from 0,0,0?


Mining and building isn't any different at 0,0,0 than it is in any other area on the map. Mobs get stronger farther away from 0,0,0. This isn't set in stone, there will probably be more changes to this formula as I continue to try to balance the game.
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Sane » Mon Aug 31, 2015 17:22

BrandonReese wrote:
Sane wrote:
BrandonReese wrote:Just pushed an update for the for the mining / building experience formula. Under this new formula at 100,000 nodes you will receive 17 experience per 100 and will have accumulated almost 9000 experience. Does that seem a little more reasonable?

I don't get why experience should increase with the the amount of digged nodes. Killing the hundredth mob does not increase the xp gained. So why should the hundredth dig? If there has to be a variation why not make it relate to the distance from 0,0,0?


Mining and building isn't any different at 0,0,0 than it is in any other area on the map. Mobs get stronger farther away from 0,0,0. This isn't set in stone, there will probably be more changes to this formula as I continue to try to balance the game.

Well mining isn't any more difficult for the 100th stone than it is for the first. But it is very well is more dangerous far away from 0,0,0 because of the more dangerous mobs.

Please excuse my prying. It's just that this rising xp thing just contrardicts all real experience I have with gaming. If the amount of xp awarded ever changed, for the same thing being done repeatedly, it always has been lowered rather the risen. It also contradicts RL, you learn most the first few times you do things.
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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Sane » Mon Aug 31, 2015 17:43

FreeLikeGNU wrote:
Sane wrote:
FreeLikeGNU wrote:placing two tools in the workbench shows a single improved tool but then all tools in the workbench and target disappear.

I think this is intended.
When you start you can't craft good tools. Beeing able to repair the tools beyond your ability would defy the purpose of the skills.

FreeLikeGNU wrote:items left in a workbench disappear immediately upon leaving the workbench hud.

Although I think it's a bug I kind of like it.
This forces you to build a secure place around the workbench because otherwise if you are attaced while crafting you have to decide between survival and keeping the stuff.

If its intended, thats fine, then there should not be an output shown, nor should items be destroyed, yes?

Hmm, might be bug too. I always thougt of it as an feature.
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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Sane » Mon Aug 31, 2015 21:25

FreeLikeGNU wrote:placing two tools in the workbench shows a single improved tool but then all tools in the workbench and target disappear.
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If its intended, thats fine, then there should not be an output shown, nor should items be destroyed, yes?

I had a go at it and came up with a solution.
This will allow default repairs. Which should not interfere with the current game mechanics to much since there is also the anvil.

Issued a pull request to BrandonReese.

If you want to fix yoursef:
+ replace the 'on_craft' function in .../games/adventuretest/mods/workbench/init.lua
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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by BrandonReese » Tue Sep 01, 2015 16:51

Sane wrote:Please excuse my prying. It's just that this rising xp thing just contrardicts all real experience I have with gaming. If the amount of xp awarded ever changed, for the same thing being done repeatedly, it always has been lowered rather the risen. It also contradicts RL, you learn most the first few times you do things.


I go back and forth between how mining and building should be rewarded. On one hand it's an accomplishment, on the other hand the repetition should have a lower reward after time. Maybe a hybrid of the two. Keep increasing the exp the more you mine/build but extend the time between awarding xp.

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Sane » Tue Sep 01, 2015 20:54

BrandonReese wrote:
Sane wrote:Please excuse my prying. It's just that this rising xp thing just contrardicts all real experience I have with gaming. If the amount of xp awarded ever changed, for the same thing being done repeatedly, it always has been lowered rather the risen. It also contradicts RL, you learn most the first few times you do things.


I go back and forth between how mining and building should be rewarded. On one hand it's an accomplishment, on the other hand the repetition should have a lower reward after time. Maybe a hybrid of the two. Keep increasing the exp the more you mine/build but extend the time between awarding xp.

That sound's like an good idea.
Maybe you could use the same mechanism that you use for player levels. Every time a player hits a new level in 'digging' you could throw a certain (if needed rising) amout of xp at the player.
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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Mugnoz » Thu Sep 03, 2015 20:35

Hi All,
I just advice days ago the problem with the workbench.. but can to be a faster way to "pulverize" usefull items... :)
Also notice some bugs on the online server..
- (for Sokomine) the smelter's furnace in the main village permit now to smelt ingnot on request (great!) but is also an infinite surce of coal lump.. if you give to he 1 coal lump you can 'steal' 99x coal lump from his furnace.
- bows do not throw arrows..
- one of my doors can be open but cannot be close because another player build a wall near the door ( 3 block away) and now I lose my ownership on the door !?

A question too: the doors in village cannot be opened if closed and owned by a player.. my doors (farm out of village) can be opened from anyone.. can i do somethings?

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Sokomine » Thu Sep 03, 2015 21:00

Mugnoz wrote:- (for Sokomine) the smelter's furnace in the main village permit now to smelt ingnot on request (great!) but is also an infinite surce of coal lump.. if you give to he 1 coal lump you can 'steal' 99x coal lump from his furnace.

To my knowledge, that's a feature :-) It's the way the blacksmith works. The ones in the start village had trouble finding their furnace. I just "bought" the land, put a furnace in front of the nose of one of the blacksmiths, and now he cooperates :-) There are also enough mobs in that area so that they will survive spider attacks.

Mugnoz wrote:- bows do not throw arrows..

Try putting the arrows to the right or left of the bow. At least that's how it's supposed to work afaik.

Mugnoz wrote:- one of my doors can be open but cannot be close because another player build a wall near the door ( 3 block away) and now I lose my ownership on the door !?

A question too: the doors in village cannot be opened if closed and owned by a player.. my doors (farm out of village) can be opened from anyone.. can i do somethings?

Sounds strange. Try not to wield anything in your hand. Else the landrush mod may think that you intend to build in a protected area. It's important that there is a further protection mod for houses built outside of villages, but landrush doesn't seem to work well together with the villages protection system (which is very basic).
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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Mugnoz » Thu Sep 03, 2015 21:20

As always thank you for your answers and... patience
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by eduardomezencio » Tue Sep 08, 2015 17:55

Is this happening to others? It happens to me when playing adventuretest for just a couple of minutes, always

2015-09-08 14:42:31: ERROR[main]: ServerError: Lua: Runtime error from mod 'mg' in callback environment_OnGenerated(): ...u/.minetest/games/adventuretest/mods/mg/dungeons.lua:114: bad argument #2 to 'random' (interval is empty)
2015-09-08 14:42:31: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
2015-09-08 14:42:31: ERROR[main]: [C]: in function 'random'
2015-09-08 14:42:31: ERROR[main]: ...u/.minetest/games/adventuretest/mods/mg/dungeons.lua:114: in function '?'
2015-09-08 14:42:31: ERROR[main]: /usr/share/minetest/builtin/game/register.lua:355: in function </usr/share/minetest/builtin/game/register.lua:335>
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by swordpaint12 » Wed Sep 09, 2015 15:24

@eduardomezencio I have been having trouble with that mod, too, but I don't know if it is the same error.
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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by BrandonReese » Wed Sep 09, 2015 16:45

eduardomezencio wrote:Is this happening to others? It happens to me when playing adventuretest for just a couple of minutes, always

2015-09-08 14:42:31: ERROR[main]: ServerError: Lua: Runtime error from mod 'mg' in callback environment_OnGenerated(): ...u/.minetest/games/adventuretest/mods/mg/dungeons.lua:114: bad argument #2 to 'random' (interval is empty)
2015-09-08 14:42:31: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
2015-09-08 14:42:31: ERROR[main]: [C]: in function 'random'
2015-09-08 14:42:31: ERROR[main]: ...u/.minetest/games/adventuretest/mods/mg/dungeons.lua:114: in function '?'
2015-09-08 14:42:31: ERROR[main]: /usr/share/minetest/builtin/game/register.lua:355: in function </usr/share/minetest/builtin/game/register.lua:335>


I haven't come across this yet, I will look into it and see what I can figure out.
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by eduardomezencio » Wed Sep 09, 2015 17:33

BrandonReese wrote:I haven't come across this yet, I will look into it and see what I can figure out.


Thanks, Brandon. If there's something else I can send to help isolate the problem, just tell.
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by eduardomezencio » Fri Sep 11, 2015 01:30

I think this commit was supposed to fix the issue, right? https://github.com/Bremaweb/adventurete ... 665b9126bc

I have tried it and it seems to work fine now. Thanks!!
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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by BrandonReese » Fri Sep 11, 2015 01:45

I pushed some updates. Warning, if you update Adventuretest you will start over with your skills, level, stamina, etc... or it might not work at all on existing worlds. This update uses the new player data storage system and is not backwards compatible with the old way of storing extra player data and depends on the new player callback to set default values for a bunch of things.

I also pushed an update for the crashing issue. Since I couldn't reproduce the crash I can't guarantee that's the fix but based on the error I think I found the problem. https://github.com/Bremaweb/adventurete ... 665b9126bc

There is a bug with hunger and the new player data. I wouldn't recommend anybody updating just yet unless you just want to pull the changes in mg/dungeons.lua to fix the crash. The current state of the game is probably pretty unstable.
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by BrandonReese » Wed Sep 30, 2015 19:38

I have done some development on the game. It seems pretty stable right now but you will want to start a new world if you update since the newest version of adventuretest isn't compatible with older versions. This is why I haven't updated the server. I'll probably setup another server that I can keep current with the newer versions.
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Glünggi » Tue Oct 06, 2015 05:48

I'll probably setup another server that I can keep current with the newer versions.

Do you delete the old Server in the near future?
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Danfun64 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 23:38

BrandonReese wrote:I wouldn't recommend anybody updating just yet unless you just want to pull the changes in mg/dungeons.lua to fix the crash. The current state of the game is probably pretty unstable.


In that case, what is the last version of the adventuretest game and client which are considered stable?

I know that is an old post, but I managed to crash the game just by walking away from the village in which I spawned in.
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Danfun64 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 21:29

Since nobody has replied to my post, I guess I should give a little more information about the bug.

debug.txt gives no information on it, even when logging level is set to max. I had to compile a debug build and run it through gdb just to get the following:

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Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 0x7fffca143700 (LWP 1827)]
0x00000000007d7834 in MapNode::getContent (this=0x7fffbd791000)
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171         return param0;

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by BrandonReese » Wed Oct 21, 2015 15:17

I haven't figured out that Segfault yet. I get it in the official minetest code too. It only seems to happen when villages get generated and I'm pretty sure it had to do with the voxel manip lighting. If you make a debug build, and turn on verbose logging and run through gdb this is what you get.

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2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]: ServerMap: Written: 0 sector metadata files, 1272 block files, 1665 blocks in memory.
2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]: ServerMap: Blocks modified by:
2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]:   initial, reallocate, setIsUnderground: -  175
2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]:   initial, reallocate, setIsUnderground, setLightingExpired, finishBlockMake: expireDayNightDiff: 240
2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]:   initial, reallocate, setIsUnderground, setLightingExpired, setGenerated, finishBlockMake: expireDayNightDiff: 178
2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]:   initial, reallocate, setIsUnderground, setLightingExpired, setGenerated, setNodeNoCheck, finishBlockMake: expireDayNightDiff: 2
2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]:   setLightingExpired: - - - - - - - - - - - 63
2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]:   setLightingExpired, finishBlockMake: expireDayNightDiff: 385
2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]:   setLightingExpired, setGenerated, finishBlockMake: expireDayNightDiff: 195
2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]:   setNode: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  18
2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]:   setNode, setNodeNoCheck: - - - - - - - -  4
2015-08-22 10:39:35: INFO[ServerThread]:   setNodeNoCheck: - - - - - - - - - - - - - 12
[New Thread 0x7fffc77fe700 (LWP 2910)]
[New Thread 0x7fffc4c86700 (LWP 2911)]
[New Thread 0x7fffc7fff700 (LWP 2909)]
[New Thread 0x7fffd4d5f700 (LWP 2908)]
[New Thread 0x7fffe514d700 (LWP 2907)]
[New Thread 0x7fffe494c700 (LWP 2906)]
[New Thread 0x7fffd7fff700 (LWP 2903)]
[New Thread 0x7fffd77fe700 (LWP 2902)]
[New Thread 0x7fffe524e700 (LWP 2901)]
[New Thread 0x7fffd6ffd700 (LWP 2900)]

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 0x7fffc77fe700 (LWP 2910)]
0x000000000088504c in Mapgen::propagateSunlight(irr::core::vector3d<short>, irr::core::vector3d<short>) ()
(gdb)


I think it might be an engine bug.
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by BrandonReese » Wed Oct 21, 2015 15:21

October has been a really busy month for me so I haven't had a chance to work on Adventuretest. I didn't realize the server was down either so it's back up. The logs filled up the hard-drive causing the crash, I hope there is no map corruption from the HD filling up. I don't have any plans on removing the current server any time soon. If I do I will put the map and everything up for download.
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Dragonop » Wed Oct 21, 2015 19:34

The server crashes when you click a vending machine (maybe it is empty?)
The vending machine is at -32, 2, 27 it sells stone pickaxes, owned by Sokomine.
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Sokomine » Fri Oct 23, 2015 05:03

Dragonop wrote:The server crashes when you click a vending machine (maybe it is empty?)
The vending machine is at -32, 2, 27 it sells stone pickaxes, owned by Sokomine.

Strange. The shop at that position has axes to sell. It looked as if it was set up to sell picks like the one behind it. Perhaps that was the reason for the crash? Can you try again?
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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Dragonop » Sat Oct 24, 2015 02:06

@Sokomine: Sure, the exact position is -33, 2.5, 27.1 and it says "Sokomine Sells 1 Stone Pickaxe for 120cr". Still crashing after punching it, with bare hands, and/or while wielding something.
 

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Re: [Game] Adventuretest [Alpha]

by Sokomine » Sat Oct 24, 2015 02:54

Strange. That shop is filled and ought to work.
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