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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by Wuzzy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 01:41

Nothing is wrong with phpBB, why are we suddenly talking about a switch? Don't fix what isn't broken. I don't care if other forum software may have a feature more here and there, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter that much.

My point is, don't put unneccessary work on celeron55. Thanks. :-)
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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by Linuxdirk » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:47

Wuzzy wrote:Nothing is wrong with phpBB

Anything is wrong with phpBB. It has anything combined a modern web forum should avoid programmatically and functionally.
 

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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by diogogomes » Sat Apr 29, 2017 21:45

nrz wrote:i hope we never switch to discourse, nextcloud uses it and it's a unclear forum and has no advantage over phpbb

Wuzzy wrote:why are we suddenly talking about a switch? Don't fix what isn't broken. I don't care if other forum software may have a feature more here and there, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter that much.


I use Discourse in many forums and one thing I really "hate" in Minetest Forum is the non responsive design. I come to the forum only few times because I need poweron computer only for this. For me and for everyone that have a smartphone and/or a tablet it matter a lot.

The main feature in Discourse that Minetest forum don't have is responsive design for smartphones and tablets and also:
    - markdown formatting,
    - badges,
    - dynamic notifications,
    - summarize topics,
    - reply via email,
    - etc

Minetest forum seems pretty outdated and I feel that it can ward off new players.

Wuzzy wrote:My point is, don't put unneccessary work on celeron55. Thanks. :-)


Why put unnecessary work on celeron55? I suppose that will be a lot of volunteers ready to help. ;)



I reinforce the idea that we have to innovate the forum, at least the design.
 

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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by wilkgr76 » Tue May 09, 2017 01:05

BTW, trying to use emoticons (not the builtin "smilies") gives an SQL error usually.

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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by Linuxdirk » Tue May 09, 2017 06:33

wilkgr76 wrote:BTW, trying to use emoticons (not the builtin "smilies") gives an SQL error usually.

Yes. That happen in all phpBB based boards because phpBB can't properly parse them.
 

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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by addi » Tue May 09, 2017 07:05

Maybe its time to update to latest phpbb 3.2, it have a responsive design, support for emojis, ...
But this might break the Minetest theme, but personally I don't care about that, because I does not use it.
And of course, the probably installed anti spam mods, have to replaced by anti spam extensions.
 

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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by CraigyDavi » Sun May 14, 2017 20:58

diogogomes wrote:
nrz wrote:i hope we never switch to discourse, nextcloud uses it and it's a unclear forum and has no advantage over phpbb

Wuzzy wrote:why are we suddenly talking about a switch? Don't fix what isn't broken. I don't care if other forum software may have a feature more here and there, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter that much.


I use Discourse in many forums and one thing I really "hate" in Minetest Forum is the non responsive design. I come to the forum only few times because I need poweron computer only for this. For me and for everyone that have a smartphone and/or a tablet it matter a lot.

The main feature in Discourse that Minetest forum don't have is responsive design for smartphones and tablets and also:
    - markdown formatting,
    - badges,
    - dynamic notifications,
    - summarize topics,
    - reply via email,
    - etc

Minetest forum seems pretty outdated and I feel that it can ward off new players.

Wuzzy wrote:My point is, don't put unneccessary work on celeron55. Thanks. :-)


Why put unnecessary work on celeron55? I suppose that will be a lot of volunteers ready to help. ;)



I reinforce the idea that we have to innovate the forum, at least the design.


I agree, Discourse is an incredible platform and has much better modern updates than the slow progress of phpBB. Would really love to see this implemented here. Works so much better on mobile devices and has some great plugins which would do everything this forum currently does and more.

Of course don't fix what isn't broken but technology moves fast; keep up ;)
 

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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by ShadowNinja » Sun May 14, 2017 21:05

CraigyDavi wrote:[Discourse] Works so much better on mobile devices...

Except that it takes 20 seconds to load...
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Destroying the Discourse hype with just one image

by Wuzzy » Sun May 14, 2017 23:50

This is how the Discourse Demo looks like without JavaScript:

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Discourse is not an acceptable alternative.
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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by TumeniNodes » Mon May 15, 2017 00:18

discourse is too trendy, hipster, millennial for my liking
I'm an old fart, I prefer the ol'e visually dependable looks, and functions of the good ol'e forum softwares.

But, Ima keep pimpin' smf to celeron55 :P
They have always been ahead of phpBB as far as security, and features, etc..
And the admin control is much easier.

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Flarum seems promising, but still far too new to consider
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by texmex » Mon May 15, 2017 12:42

TumeniNodes wrote:discourse is too trendy, hipster, millennial for my liking
I'm an old fart, I prefer the ol'e visually dependable looks, and functions of the good ol'e forum softwares.
[…]
Flarum seems promising, but still far too new to consider
http://flarum.org/

So you think Discourse is bad because it's trendy? (i.e. popular, probably because it's works well). Also because it's "hipster, millennial" while at the same time you suggest Flarum? It sounds like it only comes down to personal taste and not what would work best for this context.

Linuxdirk wrote:Nothing's bad with FluxBB

https://fluxbb.org/

It puts "user-friendly" as USP but the layout is not even responsive? ;D

If a forum software change ever was in question, I'd suggest the starting point would be to analyze who the audience is, what it needs and what's desirable behavior (increased user posting, self-moderating, higher quality posts etc) then start from that when looking for solutions.
 

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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by ShadowNinja » Mon May 15, 2017 15:53

Linuxdirk wrote:Nothing's bad with FluxBB

https://fluxbb.org/

It hasn't been updated in any form for a year, and the 2.0 version (which actually has a proper hashing algorithm) hasn't been updated for 5 years.

phpBB has also gotten quite a bit better, it's just that we're running an obsolete version (largely because the moding and theming systems suck and it takes a lot of work to update the theme and find updated/new mods).
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by Linuxdirk » Mon May 15, 2017 15:58

Even a 1 year old FluxBB version has better features and is more secure and more modern than the most recent phpBB version.
 

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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by pilcrow » Sun May 21, 2017 06:04

I haven't been around here very much lately, but I'd like to throw my two cents into the discussion (from a user-end perspective):

  • I've never used a Discourse forum before, but if their demo is anything to judge by, I find it aesthetically unpleasant ( it looks like it's trying to be a fricking IM client) but it runs well as long as you have JavaScript enabled. If its layout can be customized to something more traditional (and if the stupid giant user icons to the right of each topic can be disabled), then I'd probably like it...
  • Flarum's own forum (which I presume uses Flarum, but I don't think it actually says so anywhere on the page) has extremely bad performance on my meager laptop and will probably fare even worse on a mobile device -- browsing it feels like navigating a '90s page full of animated GIFs (slow, jerky scrolling, a large delay when clicking on anything, my CPU running at about 80%, etc.) despite there not really being any discernible reason it performs so poorly. I'm wholeheartedly opposed to using it, as it would make this forum very tedious to actually navigate...
  • FluxBB is fine from a user-end perspective, and their forum seems almost identical to the phpBB layout in use here, so if it has any better administration features than phpBB, it's probably the best option (and will take the least amount of time for end-users to get used to).
  • I don't even know how best to describe how repulsive Simple Machines is to me... That's supposed to be a forum? It looks like an old Yahoo home page! Yuck!

I hope I haven't offended anyone, just wanted to give my honest opinion as a user and not an administrator... :P
 

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by nrz » Sun May 21, 2017 08:17

Just update to last PHPBB3 and maybe change a little bit the skin to be more modern but related to MT can be sufficient. I don't think we use many plugins there
 

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by Wuzzy » Tue May 23, 2017 02:07

LOL!
There is an user (LordStephen77) who currently has 0 posts according to this forum, but this number is obviously wrong:

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17179&view=unread&sid=85aceca2b4cc4bd11fab182daf557551#p271747

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by GreenDimond » Wed May 24, 2017 15:16

Wuzzy wrote:LOL!
There is an user (LordStephen77) who currently has 0 posts according to this forum, but this number is obviously wrong:

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17179&view=unread&sid=85aceca2b4cc4bd11fab182daf557551#p271747

xD

I noticed that too :o
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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by muhdnurhidayat » Fri May 26, 2017 07:52

pilcrow wrote:I haven't been around here very much lately, but I'd like to throw my two cents into the discussion (from a user-end perspective):

  • I've never used a Discourse forum before, but if their demo is anything to judge by, I find it aesthetically unpleasant ( it looks like it's trying to be a fricking IM client) but it runs well as long as you have JavaScript enabled. If its layout can be customized to something more traditional (and if the stupid giant user icons to the right of each topic can be disabled), then I'd probably like it...
  • Flarum's own forum (which I presume uses Flarum, but I don't think it actually says so anywhere on the page) has extremely bad performance on my meager laptop and will probably fare even worse on a mobile device -- browsing it feels like navigating a '90s page full of animated GIFs (slow, jerky scrolling, a large delay when clicking on anything, my CPU running at about 80%, etc.) despite there not really being any discernible reason it performs so poorly. I'm wholeheartedly opposed to using it, as it would make this forum very tedious to actually navigate...
  • FluxBB is fine from a user-end perspective, and their forum seems almost identical to the phpBB layout in use here, so if it has any better administration features than phpBB, it's probably the best option (and will take the least amount of time for end-users to get used to).
  • I don't even know how best to describe how repulsive Simple Machines is to me... That's supposed to be a forum? It looks like an old Yahoo home page! Yuck!

I hope I haven't offended anyone, just wanted to give my honest opinion as a user and not an administrator... :P

I just hope that, if the forum ever migrated to other system, the forum wouldn't use bandwidth too much because some users have data quota. Also, I hope it could still be loaded from 64kbps internet at least without timing out (without images, of course... it would be impossible to fully load everything with that speed).

+ People who would say "upgrade your internet" needs to read this, otherwise ignore


EDIT: Note that 64kbps means 8KB/s, it's slower than 50KB/s internet. :)
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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by Milan* » Fri Jun 02, 2017 06:42

Why i almost didn't answer here was because login didn't redirected me back. >.<"

However, another trendy one is NodeBB. It is more in the "good old forum style".

Also, please - just because a hand full of people are against JavaScript without exceptions,
it shouldn't be avoided in a forum. It is one of Discourse's benefits - EmberJS.
It's pretty lovely and magic. https://emberjs.com.

Somewhere should be some tiny exception and agreements to make a modern look to the people outside and generate new players - because for now, Minetest still feels quite unseen and such a legacy forum is not the way to improve this sad situation imo - for example because it always feels so old and outdated when you come join the community, many things are unhandy, and so on - i think on this part everything is already written (oh no, shitstorm incoming).

EDIT: I have also data cap and rockin' with a family shared 50kB/s connection. I use Discourse every day. And still dislike phpBB more because: on phpBB i load every single page and it can become HORRIBLE slow - it's a freaking mess. But Discourse loads only one time because it uses a modern interface that does only loads what's new so the performance is always awesome for me!
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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by muhdnurhidayat » Sat Jul 22, 2017 05:10

ABJ wrote:Please add a feature whereby posters can decide who can edit the post.

This will be useful for server & mods thread...

Server thread:
Server owner can add server moderators into the list of user who can edit their specific post, so the server moderator could update the first post when server owner gets too busy to update them.

Mods thread:
Mods owner could add trusted contributors to the list of user who can edit their specific post, so if there's update and the owner is busy or forgotten to update the post, the contributors could update them.

Of course, this feature should be post-specific, not global... You would not want the other users to edit your post on other threads or topics... xD
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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by sorcerykid » Wed Aug 16, 2017 15:38

Does anyone know if it is possible to change the author of the thread for my server? The initial post is very outdated, and I don't want to have to start an entirely new topic just to change the description and rules for my server.
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Re: Forum is now hosted by celeron55 (report issues here)

by srifqi » Wed Aug 16, 2017 15:41

sorcerykid wrote:Does anyone know how if it is possible to modify the thread for my server?

Just click edit button on top right corner of your post. (Is it there?)
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