Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Linuxdirk » Sun Jun 24, 2018 13:00

rubenwardy wrote:5.0.0 is more properly versioned than older versions, we're now basically using SemVer

Then why not start with 1.0.0 for that? Because going from 0.4.x to 5.x is skipping 4 major versions.
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by rubenwardy » Sun Jun 24, 2018 13:01

rubenwardy wrote:The first number has been removed, and a new number added.

So from 0.Major.Minor to Major.Minor.Patch


also see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6073
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Casimir » Sun Jun 24, 2018 14:11

Nice, we have proper version numbers now :)

5.0.0 is also a good choice because it avoids confusion. A: "1.0.0 is the latest version" B: "But I have 4.17. That's a higher number."
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Linuxdirk » Sun Jun 24, 2018 14:18

Casimir wrote:A: "1.0.0 is the latest version" B: "But I have 4.17. That's a higher number."

B is wrong, because old version numbers do not change. It is still 0.4.17.
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Phoenixflo44 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 16:28

How do I get the minetest the latest version?
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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by ManElevation » Sun Jun 24, 2018 17:17

Phoenixflo44 wrote:How do I get the minetest the latest version?

here.. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/re ... -win64.zip
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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Phoenixflo44 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 17:27

That's for Windows. I need it for Linux (Ubuntu mate)
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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Wuzzy » Sun Jun 24, 2018 17:39

we're now basically using SemVer

No, this is false.
You are not using SemVer. What is true is that you are using your own versioning scheme which is partially inspired by SemVer, but that's not the same as using SemVer.
You should not claim or suggest you're using SemVer when you don't fully commit to the rules.

Anyway, to clarify to the confused readers:

CURRENT version: 0.4.17.1
FUTURE version: 5.0.0

There is not, and never has been a version 4.17, 4.17.0, 4.0.0 or anything that starts with a 4.



By the way, now that the leading zero is gone, does that mean Minetest 5.0.0 will be finished, feature-complete, balanced AND bug-free? :D
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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Punk » Mon Jun 25, 2018 07:18

0.* meaning beta version, right?
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Kroukuk » Mon Jun 25, 2018 08:19

Phoenixflo44 wrote:That's for Windows. I need it for Linux (Ubuntu mate)

Here https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by ManElevation » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:37

Phoenixflo44 wrote:That's for Windows. I need it for Linux (Ubuntu mate)

oh u can just do put the commands in the terminal
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#add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable
#apt-get update
#apt-get install minetest
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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Linuxdirk » Tue Jun 26, 2018 05:46

Wuzzy wrote:What is true is that you are using your own versioning scheme which is partially inspired by SemVer, but that's not the same as using SemVer.

So it's still a arbitrarily chosen number but now lying about completeness by raising major version from 0 to 5.
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by csirolli » Tue Jun 26, 2018 06:06

Why does having a number higher than 0 mean that it is complete? This is open source stuff, it is never complete. It likely will never be complete until everyone gives up on it (which hopefully doesn't happen unless the world falls apart and WW3 happens or something apocalyptic like that, at which point end of development is understandable). New numbers just means that we are continuing along on this journey, not that we are arriving at a point of completeness.
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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Andrey01 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 06:46

I would hope the devs will develop Minetest further after major release. Please, get back former 0.5.0 version!
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by ChimneySwift » Tue Jun 26, 2018 06:54

I don't think they're saying that it's complete, I think they're trying to show that it's "production ready", no longer a WIP. It doesn't mean they're going to drop development, it just means they want to show by the way the versioning standard works that the game is playable, and beyond the "omg, we still have so much stuff to implement" stage.
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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Andrey01 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 17:13

ChimneySwift wrote:I don't think they're saying that it's complete, I think they're trying to show that it's "production ready", no longer a WIP. It doesn't mean they're going to drop development, it just means they want to show by the way the versioning standard works that the game is playable, and beyond the "omg, we still have so much stuff to implement" stage.

Then let they to switch to 1.0.0 to show this is no WIP longer. Because 5.0.0 means the game is very developed and it can be even to such games as Minecraft, for example. But it is wrong, because Minetest doesn`t have much of stuff that have being awaited, indeed.
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by TenPlus1 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 19:40

When -dev is released and is stable it should be called 1.0 as 5.0.0 is far too high for the release in question.
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Linuxdirk » Wed Jun 27, 2018 05:19

TenPlus1 wrote:When -dev is released and is stable it should be called 1.0 as 5.0.0 is far too high for the release in question.

Exactly.

Plus: Using 5.x as successor of 0.4.x is ridiculous.
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Pyrollo » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:04

Linuxdirk wrote:
TenPlus1 wrote:When -dev is released and is stable it should be called 1.0 as 5.0.0 is far too high for the release in question.

Exactly.

Plus: Using 5.x as successor of 0.4.x is ridiculous.


I think you should fork it :D
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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by ChimneySwift » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:08

Pyrollo wrote:
Linuxdirk wrote:Exactly.

Plus: Using 5.x as successor of 0.4.x is ridiculous.


I think you should fork it :D


Fork it just to change the version number

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Linuxdirk » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:07

Pyrollo wrote:I think you should fork it :D

I work in IT since 20 years. I have to deal with so much bullshit on an everyday basis. I think I can stand a bogus version number.
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Coey » Wed Jun 27, 2018 19:32

Yeah the version number doesn't make much sense but whatever happens, I can't care too much. It's a version number.
 

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0 is on the road

by Stix » Fri Jul 06, 2018 23:37

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