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Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 16:13
by Sires
Worldblender wrote:Great! I'm lucky that I haven't written any mods yet. They'll all be made with Minetest 5.0.0 and later in mind, so I don't have to worry about rewriting anything code-related.
All that I have to do now is wait for Linux binaries (specifically DEB and RPM packages), and I'm ready to try what's new.

The new api didn't break much stuff;
And linux downloads are at https://gitlab.com/minetest/minetest/pi ... ags&page=1, look at the 5.0.0 tag.
Idk why sfan didn't add them

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 16:35
by Fixer
Minetest 5.0 win64 build has Luajit with gc64 support, apparently, that means much less OOMs (can use >1GB of mem). Will see how it goes...

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 17:38
by Wuzzy
IT'S PARTY TIME, PEOPLE!

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 17:40
by mcaygerhard
new servers are very slow and lag are frecuently on pvp and capture flags types...

0.4.X series are very faster respect thems

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 17:52
by TillCoyote
mcaygerhard wrote:new servers are very slow and lag are frecuently on pvp and capture flags types...

0.4.X series are very faster respect thems

90% of mods need to update. It is theoretically faster.

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 20:02
by Casimir
Wonderful!

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 20:16
by voxelproof
sfan5 wrote:Minetest 5.0.0 has been released!


Hurray :)) *sigh* (sound of profound relief).

This time not a screenshot yet since Minetest number 5 is still being downloaded on my laptop at the very moment... I hope you'll forgive me a little kitschy form of this pic, but I just have to somehow express my sincere joy.

Thanks, devs!

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Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 22:58
by homthack
is good the original version in minetest and I also like this version that will request and that has new mods on "minetest_game" and therefore the other version of minetest 0.4.17.1 has been very little that there is mush work to do the possible.

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 01:26
by Punk
Nice job! PPA already upgrade for this versions. Is it the stable v.?

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 02:07
by Worldblender
Punk wrote:Nice job! PPA already upgrade for this versions. Is it the stable v.?

I looked over there. 5.0.0 has already landed over in the stable PPA, at https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable. I plan on using this repository once I have some time.

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 05:31
by Enrikoo
Great GG to developers, Thank ya, cannot wait to play it.

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:18
by Andrey01
TillCoyote wrote:
mcaygerhard wrote:new servers are very slow and lag are frecuently on pvp and capture flags types...

0.4.X series are very faster respect thems

90% of mods need to update. It is theoretically faster.

Wrong. Over 90 % of my mods work fine, except roads mod. And as the core devs said 5.0.0 modding API changes wouldn`t affect most mods and they wouldn`t be broken.

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 17:47
by Imk
Mods and games can be translated
Where can I read porobny about it?
I used intllib

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 19:09
by CannibalCarrot
Is minetest 5.0.0 available for Linux yet?

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 19:21
by Lone_Wolf
CannibalCarrot wrote:Is minetest 5.0.0 available for Linux yet?

Yep. https://www.minetest.net/downloads/
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Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 19:45
by Linuxdirk
Lone_Wolf wrote:
CannibalCarrot wrote:Is minetest 5.0.0 available for Linux yet?

Yep. https://www.minetest.net/downloads/
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As of time/date of this post for all “stable” versions:

Flatpak: Updated
Debian: Extremely outdated
Ubuntu: Internal server error
Ubuntu PPA: Updated
Fedora: Outdated
openSUSE: Outdated
Mageia Outdated
Arch Linux: Outdated
Gentoo: Outdated

VoidLinux Updated

Overall it’s very sad. Is there anything we as a community can do?

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 20:49
by Nathan.S
I think you'd have to bug the people maintaining the distro and get them to update the Minetest version they provide.

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 21:57
by Lone_Wolf
Linuxdirk wrote:
Lone_Wolf wrote:
CannibalCarrot wrote:Is minetest 5.0.0 available for Linux yet?


As of time/date of this post for all “stable” versions:

Flatpak: Updated
Debian: Extremely outdated
Ubuntu: Internal server error
Ubuntu PPA: Updated
Fedora: Outdated
openSUSE: Outdated
Mageia Outdated
Arch Linux: Outdated
Gentoo: Outdated

VoidLinux Updated

Overall it’s very sad. Is there anything we as a community can do?


Ah, RIP

@CannibalCarrot What OS do you use? Have you looked into compiling from source?

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 22:57
by Wuzzy
@Nathan.S:
Great video! Good summary of the changes.

Just one little mistake: The Minetest Game stair recipe did not actually stay the exactly same. The output count changed from 6 to 8. Also, the mirrored stair recipe has been removed (as well as for tools).

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 23:41
by PapaPalpatine
Downloaded the Windows 64 version. Will be testing an assortment of my favorite mods with it and report my findings later.

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 01:31
by Wuzzy
The Minetest Wiki has been mostly updated for 5.0.0 now. I worked half of the day on that one! For reals!

Changed pages (excerpt):
- Controls (new controls)
- Controls/Movement modes (new mode: pitch move mode)
- Privileges (removed privilege: zoom)
- Server commands (new commands: /kill, /haspriv)
- Blocks (new blocks)
- Items (new items)
- Smelting (new fuels)
- Biomes (only v6 biomes)
- All relevant block/item pages

Still TODO:
- Ores (ore distribution was changed)
- Biomes (new non-v6 biomes in Minetest Game)
- Content DB stuff

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 04:06
by Nathan.S
Wuzzy wrote:@Nathan.S:
Great video! Good summary of the changes.

Just one little mistake: The Minetest Game stair recipe did not actually stay the exactly same. The output count changed from 6 to 8. Also, the mirrored stair recipe has been removed (as well as for tools).

I didn't realize the output changed... I thought the mirrored changes were removed before 5.0, maybe I've just been building too often and forgot that it wasn't in 0.4.17.1.

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 05:38
by PapaPalpatine
First three on my docket:

  1. srifqi's Superflat Mapgen 1.3 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9772
  2. VanessaE's Dreambuilder Modpack, Build #20190306-1717 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9196
  3. TumeniNodes's ArtDeco mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14444

Results Thus Far: Haven't had significant issues using any of the three above with 5.0.0. Will test some more mods and post more reports later.

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 08:33
by acidzebra
Grats on getting it out the door, devs and everyone involved! Nice one :D

...and I just grabbed and compiled a dev version of 5.0.0 yesterday evening too lol.

Linuxdirk wrote:Overall it’s very sad. Is there anything we as a community can do?


It's the fate of many "non-essential" packages, unless there is someone in that specific maintainer group who happens to care about that particular package. Most will update in the next few weeks I expect.

Re: Minetest 5.0.0

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 08:57
by Linuxdirk
acidzebra wrote:Most will update in the next few weeks I expect.

I know for Arch that is usually take 3-5 weeks to update Minetest because the maintainer neither is a player nor a dev. Seems like the currently updated packages are maintained by devs or active players.

Fortunately updating Minetest in arch is super easy: get the package, modify PKGBUILD to point to the latest version and add the checksums, makepkg, pacman -U ..., done. I suggest setting pkgrel=0 so the updated version from the repositories "updates" the manually created and installed package on pacman -Syu once the repository was updated.