Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

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Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

by paramat » Sun Aug 25, 2019 22:02

We recently noticed that the sounds in the Minetest game TNT mod did not have any credits or license information.
Tracing the sources of the sounds we discovered that 2 of the sounds came from a proprietary source (which i will not disclose, and i think is best not disclosed here) so cannot be used.
The 3rd sound also cannot be used due to having no credit or license.

These sounds have been removed from the Minetest Game TNT mod.
If anyone is using these sounds in a mod, they should replace them immediately.
 

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Re: Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

by TumeniNodes » Sun Aug 25, 2019 23:43

paramat wrote:We recently noticed that the sounds in the Minetest game TNT mod did not have any credits or license information.
Tracing the sources of the sounds we discovered that 2 of the sounds came from a proprietary source (which i will not disclose, and i think is best not disclosed here) so cannot be used.
The 3rd sound also cannot be used due to having no credit or license.

These sounds have been removed from the Minetest Game TNT mod.
If anyone is using these sounds in a mod, or game, they should replace them immediately.
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Re: Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

by v-rob » Mon Aug 26, 2019 21:02

Good thing this was noticed. So, were the sounds replaced with something else?
 

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Re: Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

by TumeniNodes » Tue Aug 27, 2019 00:25

v-rob wrote:Good thing this was noticed. So, were the sounds replaced with something else?


yes, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2449 is just awaiting more reviews and one more approval.

Until then, those who update or d/l the latest just get a funny, lil "pop"
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Re: Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

by Wuzzy » Tue Aug 27, 2019 03:06

Tracing the sources of the sounds we discovered that 2 of the sounds came from a proprietary source (which i will not disclose, and i think is best not disclosed here) so cannot be used.

Lol. We basically all know which source it is. :P

By the way, the fuse sound is likely a derivate work of https://freesound.org/people/Ned%20Bouh ... unds/8320/
It sounds very very similar. And it long predates the Source That Should Not Be Named. It's seems the Source That Should Not Be Named has altered the sound a bit.

It's an open secret that the Source That Should Not Be Named has used freesound.org extensively. They often altered the sounds a bit to fit their needs.

So, we could re-do the fuse sound by doing our own derivate work from the CC0 sound above. Then we're safe AND have a good fuse sound. But it's UNSAFE to directly copy the sound from the Source That Should Not Be Named.

I was unable to find the source of the explosion sound on the Internet. Maybe they used another sound library that we don't know. Whatever. But in the Internet you'll probably find a billion explosion sounds.
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Re: Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

by Wuzzy » Tue Aug 27, 2019 03:33

I just replaced the files in MineClone 2.

Here's the folder of mcl_tnt:
https://repo.or.cz/MineClone/MineClone2 ... MS/mcl_tnt

Documentation is given in readme file. tnt_ignite.ogg is my own derivate work. tnt_explode.ogg was found in a public domain sound collection.
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Re: Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

by TumeniNodes » Tue Aug 27, 2019 03:48

Wuzzy wrote:So, we could re-do the fuse sound by doing our own derivate work from the CC0 sound above. Then we're safe AND have a good fuse sound. But it's UNSAFE to directly copy the sound from the Source That Should Not Be Named.

I was unable to find the source of the explosion sound on the Internet. Maybe they used another sound library that we don't know. Whatever. But in the Internet you'll probably find a billion explosion sounds.


Already all been redone dude.
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Re: Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

by redblade7 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 21:00

I don't use -dev on my servers, they are all at v5.0.1.

Is it safe to just replace the v5.0.1 OGG files with the ones here?

https://github.com/minetest/minetest_ga ... tnt/sounds
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Re: Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

by TumeniNodes » Wed Aug 28, 2019 21:40

redblade7 wrote:Is it safe to just replace the v5.0.1 OGG files with the ones here?
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_ga ... tnt/sounds


Yes, these are the new sounds.
Be sure to add the licenses as well from https://github.com/minetest/minetest_ga ... ME.txt#L29 to line 43

and then
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_ga ... se.txt#L71 to line 99

Using copy/paste is the easiest way to add in the license bits
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Re: Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

by Andrey01 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 08:23

The TNT sounds have been existed already a long ago and I think it's very doubting somebody knowing these sounds are from the proprietary source will find out they are in MTG, because there is enough a little communuty itself in the MT...
 

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Re: Important legal info about Minetest Game TNT mod sounds

by redblade7 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 22:18

Are you going to release a minetest_game v5.0.2 or are we close enough to the release of v5.1.0?
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