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Linuxdirk wrote:Oh, cool absolutely looking forward to that.

It’s still not perfectly aligned, but now we’re talking about 2-3 pixels maximum. I guess that’s the best we can get out of the formspecs. It’s of course much, much, much better than the mess we currently have :)

For label alignment maybe use the center of baseline-to-cap height as alignment reference. Occasional descenders and ascenders would even out and the text would look centered independent from font size and face.
Nope, elements are pixel-perfect, have a look:

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The formspec is at https://github.com/v-rob/minetest_forms ... c/init.lua (a bit outdated; I've been constantly changing it).

Labels are a bit of a tricky situation. I am currently changing them as per one of Rubenwardy's suggestions to work better.

I think that it will be merged soon, but as I said, I need to fix the labels and do a bit more documenting.

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These are some tricks you can do with the new system. The old system has such messed up coordinates so that most of these really aren't feasible.
  • Read-only fields (fields without a name) only display the title, and since titles are rendered above the coordinate, you can place this behind e.g. a button and the button will look like it has a title.
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  • Tabheaders can be offset; they don't have to be on the top. So, you can have a tabheader in the middle of your form.

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Re: Post your screenshots!

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I think your form could do with some tableoptions, Rubenwardy:

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Using hardware coloring for my leaves now. Think I should make the beanstalks candy-striped?

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Edit: And a very minimal grass-blend. The last time I tried this, it got way too complicated.

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This mod might interest you duane viewtopic.php?f=11&t=18862
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Re: Post your screenshots!

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Hey, everyone thanks for the words of encouragement! The release is still on schedule, so stay tuned :)
Wuzzy wrote:In other words, it's useless. At least for me. I don't want to depend on any mod for formspec stuff!
Ratio is intended to be used on a development box, not a production server. There is no need to depend on Scarlet in any mods.
duane wrote:I don't like bitmapped GUIs. A proper GUI should be completely scalable, and any attempt at pixel precision makes that unlikely.
Scarlet supports multiple units (cell, point, and image) that all scale to the user's screen DPI. This was mentioned in the WIP topic. Pixel precision is not the goal of Scarlet. Also, Ratio Workspace doesn't even incorporate pixel-based coordinates.

On a sidenote, despite what Rubenwardy claims, Scarlet is nowhere near being "made obsolete". New features like themable in-line templates and user-defined element parsers are already in development. And with the launch of Ratio Workspace next week, Scarlet is certainly not going anywhere anytime soon :)

Here's an example of the size[] w/ borders element that is unique to Scarlet and allows for some interesting layout possibilities!

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Lone_Wolf wrote:This mod might interest you duane viewtopic.php?f=11&t=18862
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Yep, I saw that, but it's a little overkill for my needs. Also, I gather that it doesn't use dry grass, so I'd have to spawn my lions on regular grass. I don't think that would work out.

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duane wrote:I don't like bitmapped GUIs. A proper GUI should be completely scalable, and any attempt at pixel precision makes that unlikely.
Scarlet supports multiple units (cell, point, and image) that all scale to the user's screen DPI. This was mentioned in the WIP topic. Pixel precision is not the goal of Scarlet. Also, Ratio Workspace doesn't even incorporate pixel-based coordinates.
I'm still a bit skeptical (of both PR and mod), but I'll take your word for it.

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v-rob wrote:Nope, elements are pixel-perfect, have a look:
Then why is there a visible space between the 1x1 button and the 2x2 button but no visible space betwenn the 1x1 “air” and the 2x2 “air”? Why is the 2x3 ignore smaller than the 2x3 inventory slots? Why is there a 1px space between the 2x2 “air” button and the 2x3 “ignore“ but not between the 2x2 “air” and the 2x2 “air” button? Why is the textfield and the password field touching but the “this” and “dropdown” are overlapping by 1px? Why is the 2x3 „Read-Only Textarea“ textarea wider than the textlist? I could go on for a while and I didn’t even load the image to Gimp yet.

As said: This is MUCH better than the current state but still far away from being pixel-perfect.

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Linuxdirk wrote:
v-rob wrote:Nope, elements are pixel-perfect, have a look:
Then why is there a visible space between the 1x1 button and the 2x2 button but no visible space betwenn the 1x1 “air” and the 2x2 “air”? Why is the 2x3 ignore smaller than the 2x3 inventory slots? Why is there a 1px space between the 2x2 “air” button and the 2x3 “ignore“ but not between the 2x2 “air” and the 2x2 “air” button? Why is the textfield and the password field touching but the “this” and “dropdown” are overlapping by 1px? Why is the 2x3 „Read-Only Textarea“ textarea wider than the textlist? I could go on for a while and I didn’t even load the image to Gimp yet.

As said: This is MUCH better than the current state but still far away from being pixel-perfect.
I was waiting for this :-) Let me debunk these for you.

There is a 1px border on the bottom and right sides of all the buttons because that is how Irrlicht draws them. If you look closely, that 1px border is slightly darker than the surrounding form and is actually part of the button. If you place a square image on an image button, you will see that the rect is perfect.

Inventory slots have a 1/4 a unit space between them by default because it would look wrong to have a full space or no space between them. They wouldn't look like a group. Needless to say, there is another PR (not mine) for adjusting the spacing and size of inventory slots, so this isn't a problem.

The dropdowns aren't overlapping. "This" appears to be overlapping on top of "dropdown" by a single pixel, but it isn't. That apparent overlap is actually the dark black border of "dropdown". All dropdowns have a black border on the top and left sides.

How is the "Read Only Textarea" wider than the textlist? It doesn't have a background, so I don't see how you're judging this one. Read-only textareas have the same coordinates as the normal textareas, and if you look at the adjacent textarea, it is pixel perfect.

So, as you can see, most of these things that appear to be inconsistencies are optical illusions due to how Irrlicht draws its elements. Except for inventory slots, which, as I explained, are on purpose.

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Unfortunately I couldn't post it without resizing, but still it shows how magnificent some landscapes are when rendered in MT 5.

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convert to .jpg next time
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TumeniNodes wrote:convert to .jpg next time
I tried it, it generates 64kB file with the best quality setting. But the image lost a lot of sharpness -- the textures got blurred to an unacceptable degree.
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voxelproof wrote:Unfortunately I couldn't post it without resizing, but still it shows how magnificent some landscapes are when rendered in MT 5.

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Looks good except for that nasty river. : )

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v-rob wrote:[...] because that is how Irrlicht draws them.
So it is basically just fixing the messed up sizes and positions from Irrlicht using some kind of postprocessor?
v-rob wrote:How is the "Read Only Textarea" wider than the textlist?
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Linuxdirk wrote:
v-rob wrote:[...] because that is how Irrlicht draws them.
So it is basically just fixing the messed up sizes and positions from Irrlicht using some kind of postprocessor?
v-rob wrote:How is the "Read Only Textarea" wider than the textlist?
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That looks like you're counting from the light-gray border around the field off the screen to the left. If you consider the borders, they align perfectly.

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duane wrote: Looks good except for that nasty river. : )
Look at it as at a waterfall under construction ;)

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... and when you are tired from all these overwhelming landscapes ...
join the serene silence of a Japanese Tea Room:

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PEAK wrote:... and when you are tired from all these overwhelming landscapes ...
join the serene silence of a Japanese Tea Room:
Rocky pinnacles --
Historic architecture,
Very impressive.

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Even Tea Houses need setting, or company....

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PEAK wrote:... and when you are tired from all these overwhelming landscapes ...
join the serene silence of a Japanese Tea Room:
A piece of decent Japanese architecture and a clean, minimalistic interior design characteristic of that culture. But I still miss something... These buildings look stranded without the tea garden surrounding them ;) (Yeah, I know we don't have tea plants yet in MT)

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Sucks to be belly-deep in snow...

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Decided that I needed some crystals. I should probably think of some practical use for them...

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Just for fun, I decided to put a rail in the middle of my roads. I can honestly say that it's the worst way to travel that I've ever experienced... but it works. I can run a loop around an entire continent while the terrain is generating -- my last try took three game days to come back to its starting point. (And I lost my cart, getting out.)

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duane wrote:Just for fun, I decided to put a rail in the middle of my roads. I can honestly say that it's the worst way to travel that I've ever experienced... but it works. I can run a loop around an entire continent while the terrain is generating -- my last try took three game days to come back to its starting point. (And I lost my cart, getting out.)
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