Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

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Should we rename Minetest?

Yes sure!
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No we won't!
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maybe yes or maybe no: please comment!
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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

by BBmine » Post

I think it should be left as Minetest. :)

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BBmine wrote:I think it should be left as Minetest. :)
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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

by crazy_baboon » Post

The sooner the minetest_game is renamed the better!

It should have already been renamed years ago.

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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

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it's Minetest Game (said by Wuzzy) and here we mostly talk of changing the engine name :) (Minetest)
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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

by rubenwardy » Post

This was discussed on IRC last night
celeron55 wrote: you can throw name suggestions at me; i haven't completely thrown away the notion of changing the name
one thing i've thought about is publishing minetest under many names, at the same time
minetest works well for all languages where "test" isn't a native word :P
so, just not in the US and UK and such
use CeleCraft and be done with it :trollface:
everywhere else it's surprisingly quite fine
Basically, any combination of open, free, mine, miner, craft was agreed to be unimaginative and bland, so there's little point suggesting them.

Kuutio, meaning cube in Finnish, was suggest, and had a good response
20:35 paramat finnish words could work well
20:35 celeron55 i'd love it if i could change the name to mesemaa
20:36 paramat like 'kuutio'
20:36 VanessaE SandVox Engine and meseland_game. there.
20:36 celeron55 just calling it kuutio would be fine too
20:36 rubenwardy how is that pronounced?
20:38 celeron55 rubenwardy: google translate doesn't get it entirely wrong
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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

by Sergey » Post

Damn. It seems that developers will negotiate behind the scenes, and change the name to another crappy one.

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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

by Casimir » Post

rubenwardy how is that pronounced?
IPA: ['kuːt̪io̞]

However, I think "Call it Cube, but in another language." isn't doing the trick.
1. It's a common word and won't lead to the game engine called "kuutio" when you search it. Try it and you will see youtube channels by Finnish MineCraft players.
2. It's still generic.
3. It has little to do with the game or its history, the only information we get out of it that it has to do with a cube and one of developers might come from Finnland.

One way to deal with it would be to extend it someway, like "kuutioMT" and then call mintest_game "MTG"/"MTgame", and have "MT" just be those two letters, ignoring their previous meaning. Also MT is already established as an abbreviation of Minetest - we could continue using it.

It would be good to have a connecting element of the engine and the default subgame, so new players will see what belongs together. (Meaning in the hypothetical future that the release would include several subgames.) - While we're at it: Rebranding the game is a huge change, wouldn't it be good to also have a huge change in the game go with it? Like the 0.5 release? Or including other subgames?

Edit: Also don't forget Mesetint ;)

2. Edit: Or Manic Digger. It just sounds awesome.

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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

by Sergey » Post

Casimir wrote:kuutio
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Casimir wrote:kuutioMT
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Casimir wrote:Mesetint
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Casimir wrote:Manic Digger
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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

by echosa » Post

Since my detailed reply is now several pages back, let me tl;dr it and suggest "Minetest Launcher" (or similar) again. Is there any reason not to do that? 1.) It keeps the "Minetest" name, so no XBMC/Kodi issues. 2.) It makes it clear what a person is *actually* downloading, installing, and running. 3.) Minetest Game then makes a little more sense. (Minetest Launcher vs Minetest Game is more clear than Minetest vs Minetest Game.)

I feel like this is the best compromise of easy change (not having to "unbrand" the word "Minetest") and clarity for users (so they know what the software is and does).

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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

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Casimir wrote:However, I think "Call it Cube, but in another language." isn't doing the trick..
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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

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Sergey wrote:Image
kuutio was paramats suggestion, I argued why it would be a bad choice.
Suggesting Mesetint wasn't serious. It's an old anagram c55 used at some point.
Manic Digger was another voxel game, but is now abandoned. From all the open source voxel games it's the only one that doesn't have "mine, block, voxel, craft" in it's name.
My idea was to use an affix "MT" somehow in the name to make it less generic, have a connection to the past, and enable to still use "minetest" in some way or the other and see the connection to the new name.

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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

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MiBi (pronounce as meebee)

acronym for Make it / Break it

pretty much sums up the overall gameplay, as you are constantly either making stuff, or breaking stuff, (whether you're playing or modding) :P
And it is entirely unique from all other similar game's names.

As I have stated a few times, people will automatically have the general idea of what it is all about, due to the way it has been, is, and always will be described, anywhere it is found on the web.

And..., ahhhhhh, makes for a very nice, short word when it involves coding ; )
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TumeniNodes wrote:MiBi (pronounce as meebee)

acronym for Make it / Break it

pretty much sums up the overall gameplay, as you are constantly either making stuff, or breaking stuff, (whether you're playing or modding) :P
And it is entirely unique from all other similar game's names.

As I have stated a few times, people will automatically have the general idea of what it is all about, due to the way it has been, is, and always will be described, anywhere it is found on the web.

And..., ahhhhhh, makes for a very nice, short word when it involves coding ; )
"MeeBee" sound interesting, no, really, the word sounds interesting and weird at the time.
It's one of the best suggestions we have by now.
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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

by TumeniNodes » Post

I don't think "the best"... I'm just trying to get people to think beyond all of the typical namesakes, which have gone around forever, and have all been way over used and worn out by every other similar software for a while now.

People really need to think way more creatively when it comes to a name.
As I said before in this thread, all these words which reference very obvious aspects, which will be covered by the description in the first place is lame.

It's like beating a dead kitten..., it's disturbing, and steers people away. And it should come with severe penalties.
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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

by Sergey » Post

TumeniNodes wrote:MiBi (pronounce as meebee)
acronym for Make it / Break it
BiBi (bee-bee) would be nice

build it / break it

Short form is BB instead of MT.

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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

by azekill_DIABLO » Post

Hum. Cute but not sure an acronym like this is a better name.
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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

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How about OpenMinecraft?

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By the way, in russian cartoon Смешарики (in other countries Kikoriki) there is a character Pin who build robot Bibi (pronounce as beebee)

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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

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ABJ wrote:How about OpenMinecraft?
You are so original!!!

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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

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Also, Bibi is the nickname of Benjamin Netanyahu.

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:) it's nice!
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Sergey wrote:By the way, in russian cartoon Смешарики (in other countries Kikoriki) there is a character Pin who build robot Bibi (pronounce as beebee)

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Do you watch Kikoriki?I sometimes watch

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Andrey01 wrote:Do you watch Kikoriki?I sometimes watch
Yes, I watched Смешарики before (name Kikoriki was invented for broadcasting in other countries). Very nice cartoon series for kids and adults as well.

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Re: Should we rename Minetest? (poll)

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Hmmm,
Maybe the name Fruitloop Magnet might be best...
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