New Minetest Website?
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Re: New Minetest Website?
Yeah, the biggest problem right now is that minetest.net is basically broken.
Just fix the JavaScript dependency. Sorry, I don't even want to argue about this anymore.
Just fix the JavaScript dependency. Sorry, I don't even want to argue about this anymore.
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Re: New Minetest Website?
and explain me why it has so few and old screenshots, and so many useless content.... Also explain me why so much space is lost on the sides?
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Re: New Minetest Website?
What if we pick from those good screenshots which have been posted by many users?
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Re: New Minetest Website?
Because it's a website made by devs who tried to make a modern website but have no idea how to make modern websites.azekill_DIABLO wrote:and explain me why it has so few and old screenshots, and so many useless content.... Also explain me why so much space is lost on the sides?
There is a pretty inactive GitHub repo for the website with the last REAL update on August 16, 2017. Maybe we should flood this repo with issues and pull request to wake up the devs that feel responsible for the site.
https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io
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I think you should start working from the new website rather than the old one!
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:D that's probably true ! It looks as modern as a Lada. But three times more useless.Linuxdirk wrote: Because it's a website made by devs who tried to make a modern website but have no idea how to make modern websites.
That an option, I could also do an *issue bot* that would do this 24/24hMaybe we should flood this repo with issues and pull request to wake up the devs that feel responsible for the site.
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Re: New Minetest Website?
I'm not a web designer. I know how to do stuff but I am not good at the actual design part, so no, that won't happen :)toby109tt wrote:I think you should start working from the new website rather than the old one!
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When you see how they killed the website with javascript and horrible CSS... better start from scratch! what were the others contestant for the website change?toby109tt wrote:I think you should start working from the new website rather than the old one!
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Re: New Minetest Website?
Part of the reason the website is not being changed or worked on is because BlockMen, last I heard, has moved on, and he was mostly in charge of the Minetest website. I think Calinou at one point had worked on it, but what's there now is BlockMen's work afaik.
If one wants to go and change the site, the source code is all there on the Minetest GitHub repo, and can be easily changed. If you want to redesign the site, go ahead and give your attempt at doing so, while keeping in mind what other people are saying. Don't replace bad with just as bad or worse. If you can't do so, then I would suggest just making a feature list that you'd like to see instead of making comments that are useless.
Bad example:
If one wants to go and change the site, the source code is all there on the Minetest GitHub repo, and can be easily changed. If you want to redesign the site, go ahead and give your attempt at doing so, while keeping in mind what other people are saying. Don't replace bad with just as bad or worse. If you can't do so, then I would suggest just making a feature list that you'd like to see instead of making comments that are useless.
Bad example:
Good example:It doesn't work
Bad example:Just fix the JavaScript dependency. It can break things and is just not a good idea to use.
Good example:It looks stupid or ugly
The screenshots are outdated and the design looks odd in *specific area*
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Re: New Minetest Website?
Okay sir will do something js-free and modern! (will try to make it responsive too :3)philipbenr wrote:Part of the reason the website is not being changed or worked on is because BlockMen, last I heard, has moved on, and he was mostly in charge of the Minetest website. I think Calinou at one point had worked on it, but what's there now is BlockMen's work afaik.
If one wants to go and change the site, the source code is all there on the Minetest GitHub repo, and can be easily changed. If you want to redesign the site, go ahead and give your attempt at doing so, while keeping in mind what other people are saying. Don't replace bad with just as bad or worse. If you can't do so, then I would suggest just making a feature list that you'd like to see instead of making comments that are useless.
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Re: New Minetest Website?
A solution to the unnecessary JS dependency for basic functionality: https://codepen.io/anon/pen/LOOpvV (no styling, just functionality)philipbenr wrote:Bad example:Good example:It doesn't workJust fix the JavaScript dependency. It can break things and is just not a good idea to use.
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And it's possible to do that? why the hell did they choose js to do that?Linuxdirk wrote:A solution to the unnecessary JS dependency for basic functionality: https://codepen.io/anon/pen/LOOpvV (no styling, just functionality)philipbenr wrote:Bad example:Good example:It doesn't workJust fix the JavaScript dependency. It can break things and is just not a good idea to use.
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Re: New Minetest Website?
Because JS has been a popular solution for a long time, its just less and less popular now. People still get stuck in the old ways of doing things because its what they know how to do and its easy.azekill_DIABLO wrote:...
And it's possible to do that? why the hell did they choose js to do that?
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Because the current solution “provides a good-looking responsive navbar”. Not that this white bar with dropdown indicators is anything spectacular in design or complicated to re-create the functionality without Javascript, but hey, I guess not having to write a little CSS is the official statement against making the site accessible.azekill_DIABLO wrote:why the hell did they choose js to do that?
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If it's that wwhy didn't they ask real site makers?Linuxdirk wrote:I guess not having to write a little CSS is the official statement against making the site accessible.
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Re: New Minetest Website?
If you used a tiny bit of the effort you're spending bitching into actually making a pr the JavaScript dependency could be fixed by now.
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Okay Sir.rubenwardy wrote:If you used a tiny bit of the effort you're spending bitching into actually making a pr the JavaScript dependency could be fixed by now.
PS: please use a more decent language :)
EDIT: Stated working on it. Looks very promising actually! the css might not be more than 50 lines long. I even found another tiny error on minetest.net... When you go on customize and click subgame you're send to customize anyway.
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I did by creating a working CSS only drop-down menu but …rubenwardy wrote:If you used a tiny bit of the effort you're spending bitching into actually making a pr the JavaScript dependency could be fixed by now.
No-one cares and the only person reacting is against it.
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Hey, dude, I am with you!
Check that POC! (CSS is horrible, okay)
https://codepen.io/azekill_DIABLO/pen/v ... itors=1100
Check that POC! (CSS is horrible, okay)
https://codepen.io/azekill_DIABLO/pen/v ... itors=1100
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Re: New Minetest Website?
Better have the image and text outside and have the header flex, too.
https://codepen.io/anon/pen/VryGwY?editors=1100
All that now has to be done is adding the right CSS for styling :)
https://codepen.io/anon/pen/VryGwY?editors=1100
All that now has to be done is adding the right CSS for styling :)
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yep!
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