How do you think about "Forbidden license" paragraph?

should "Disallowed licenses" paragraph in guidelines be changed?

NO
15
94%
YES:REMOVE COMPLETELY
0
No votes
YES:BUT STILL DISALLOW SELLING THINGS FOR MONEY
1
6%
 
Total votes : 16

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KGM
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How do you think about "Forbidden license" paragraph?

by KGM » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:08

"Disallowed licenses

Any game or content included therein that disallows derivatives cannot be published on this forum. These include CC NoDerivs and pretty much any closed source licenses."
(taken out guidelines in Subgame Releases)

"Disallowed licenses

Any mod or content included therein that disallows derivatives cannot be published on this forum. These include CC NoDerivs and pretty much any closed source licenses."
(taken out guidelines in Mod Releases)

What that means:

If someone makes a game/mod under such a license, he can't publish it properly, so that means less mods/subgames on forums for the user.

Why such a license:

Cause you don't want anyone to steal your code, publish it, slightly changed, and take all the credits.
(If you think that won't happen anyway, look how many minetest forks, among them some sold for money, exist. (ask wuzzy, he knows!) )

Finally:

Why not just forbiding selling things on forums for money?

If you think this should change into one direction or another,
participate in the vote.

Hope that in future, when there are enough votes, some Moderator looks at vote and changes it, or doesn't, depending on what the majority wants.
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Note: I try to avoid dependencies in my Mods:
To install a mod, just unzip it and
paste it into the /mods directory of
the concerning subgame.
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Re: How do you think about "Forbidden license" paragraph?

by paramat » Sat Jun 09, 2018 21:47

This is not a democracy, luckily, the majority may vote for something that is wrong. Polls are unrepresentative anyway.
 

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Re: How do you think about "Forbidden license" paragraph?

by duane » Sat Jun 09, 2018 22:29

KGM wrote:Cause you don't want anyone to steal your code, publish it, slightly changed, and take all the credits.
(If you think that won't happen anyway, look how many minetest forks, among them some sold for money, exist. (ask wuzzy, he knows!) )


Firstly, if this is what you're worried about, you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

Second, it would be illegal under the gpl or mit licenses to redistribute without crediting the original author. That might not stop someone, but neither would a more restrictive license.
Believe in people and you don't need to believe anything else.
 

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Re: How do you think about "Forbidden license" paragraph?

by KGM » Sun Jun 10, 2018 08:57

1. HOW an a****** would give credits to you:
credits go to duane for developing everything I am selling for money right now.
2. these licenses don't stop anyone SELLING yOUR WORK as part of dual-licensed thing or something like that!
3. EXAMPLE: THESE LIBERAL DEVELOPERS MADE THAT MISTAKE:

THE ORIGINAL: http://home.flightgear.org/
THE PERFECTLY LEGAL COPY THAT GETS SOLD FOR MONEY VERY SUCCESSFULLY: http://www.flightprosim.com/

TO THE DEVELOPERS:

DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO YOUR PRODUCTS; TOO?!!!

WHAT I WANT IS JUST PREVENT MY WORK FROM BEING MISUSED BY SOME a******!
AND I DON'T KNOW WHY MTFORUMS RULES ARE AGAINST!
I THINK THESE RULES HAVE BEEN SET UP BY IDEALISTS WHO DON'T KNOW THE DARK SIDE OP THE WORLD!
TO PREVENT OUR WORK FROM BEING ASSIMILATED BY THE DARK SIDE; WE HAVE TO CHANGE!

I DON'T WANNA WAIT UNTIL THERE IS PERFECTLY LEGAL NEW MINECRAFT SOLD FOR MONEY BASED ON OUR WORK!

DON'T THINK EVERY HUMAN IS SHEEP; THERE ARE MORE WOLFES AMONG US THAN YOU THINK!

AND IF SOME THRUSTED PERSON WANTS TO RELEASE A FORK; HE CAN SIMPLY ASK YOU!

@paramat:
Polls are unrepresentative anyway.

You're right, too few people go vote, there should be poll subforum, just for polls! How about requesting such subforum?
My Lord of the Rings subgame:https://https://wiki.minetest.net/LOTH

Note: I try to avoid dependencies in my Mods:
To install a mod, just unzip it and
paste it into the /mods directory of
the concerning subgame.
[License:LGPL-2.1]
 


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