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More quality videos of Minetest!

by runs » Tue Dec 25, 2018 23:33

To Minetest increases popularity needs more videos in YouTube, that squeakers (10-13 years old) love.

Minecraft was Minecraft due to Youtube in part.
 

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by TumeniNodes » Wed Dec 26, 2018 01:40

just what we need..., servers overflowing with bratty, obnoxious, irritating, and rude babies.
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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by migdyn » Thu Dec 27, 2018 02:52

Is this a troll thread? So you're saying that Minetest Videos should make mod review videos like PopularMMOs? It would be a total disaster. I like how Minetest Videos (Nathan Saplat) presents the mods in a calm and informative way. I hate PopularMMOs tho, his videos look like this:
[Cringy Dubstep music]
Hey guys this is POPULARMMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
TODAY I WILL SHOW AN AMAZING MOD CALLED MOBS_MONSTERS
The first monster I will show will be... Hmmmmmmmmhhh... A zombie!
Okay... WTFFFF????????? OMG! OMG! OMG! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! F**K I DIED
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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by runs » Thu Dec 27, 2018 20:42

Yes, it is called entertainment...

Minetest videos are calm = Boring. 30 min or more of the sickle to death, like a documentary about lions in the savannah. The audience is not engaged. It is a big problem!!!

The popular Minecraft videos have millions of visits. Young youtubers that talk with a enthusiastic voice and winking the teen target.

OMG, the Minetets reviewers also do not show their faces. People love to know who are the youtubers, especially if they are young and cute.

The opposite would be to condemn Minetest to the most absolute obstracism...

But watch out, I'm not saying there shouldn't be all kinds of videos, but right now there are only boring videos.

I will do some Minetest videos, but of course, with a lot of secrets, mystery, crazy comments and a lot of fun. And if I have to break a keyboard and get all crazy, I'll do it. :-D

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by Skulls » Thu Dec 27, 2018 23:39

Smashed the like, banged the bell, subbed and shared. I am now part of the #notificationsquad.

Seriously though, what is your YT channel? I would like to see.
 

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by migdyn » Fri Dec 28, 2018 00:24

Minetest mod review videos are boring? Maybe for you...
I'm not saying all videos should be purely educational, I'm saying that they should be informative and also entertaining but they shouldn't be a copy of each other with slight changes like PopularMMOs does with his lucky block videos. This reminds me of Elsagate(viewtopic.php?f=56&t=21656) a bit
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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by Linuxdirk » Fri Dec 28, 2018 05:22

runs wrote:Minetest videos are calm […] like a documentary about lions in the savannah.

I wish there were such documentations nowadays. But it seems like it’s all about exaggerated screaming and action movie like cuts.

runs wrote:OMG, the Minetets reviewers also do not show their faces. People love to know who are the youtubers, especially if they are young and cute.

So you’re watching for the person not for the content. That’s fine.

Skulls wrote:Smashed the like, banged the bell, subbed and shared. I am now part of the #notificationsquad.

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by migdyn » Wed Jan 02, 2019 05:24

Actually cringy MT videos for 10 year olds already exist and they're called The Pixel Shadow
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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by benrob0329 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 15:29

migdyn wrote:Actually cringy MT videos for 10 year olds already exist and they're called The Pixel Shadow


How dare you insult the honest work of Cat5 TV and RobbieF's daughter. Just because its made by and intended for younger audiences doesn't make it cringy.

Personally I think we need more creative content and original games that people will want to check out. Minetest itself is more likely to attract modders than players, but the servers and games built atop are what could really draw some attention.

Many popular series based around MC (such as the Hermitcraft series) don't show player's faces, but this is used for jokes about the players being inside the world of the server and ends up adding to the videos.
 

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by migdyn » Sun Jan 06, 2019 16:01

benrob0329 wrote:
migdyn wrote:Actually cringy MT videos for 10 year olds already exist and they're called The Pixel Shadow


How dare you insult the honest work of Cat5 TV and RobbieF's daughter. Just because its made by and intended for younger audiences doesn't make it cringy.

Personally I think we need more creative content and original games that people will want to check out. Minetest itself is more likely to attract modders than players, but the servers and games built atop are what could really draw some attention.

Many popular series based around MC (such as the Hermitcraft series) don't show player's faces, but this is used for jokes about the players being inside the world of the server and ends up adding to the videos.

I'm not insulting anyone
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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by TenPlus1 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 19:07

I love The Pixel Shadow videos :) especially the one they did on Xanadu server :) w00t!
 

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by benrob0329 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 19:48

migdyn wrote:I'm not insulting anyone


Really?
cringy MT videos for 10 year olds

That's an insult, towards the video sure, but it's still an insult.

More Content Creators will come when there is more things worth making content for, because until we have more to show than the standard fork of MTG, we'll still be seen as a Minecraft ripoff with nothing more to offer.
 

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by Mantar » Mon Jan 07, 2019 01:50

I think something getting lost in here is that apart from whether or not they should ape the flashy kid-oriented Minecraft videos, (they shouldn't!) I feel like the Minetest video community could still improve their craft (heh) in places.

Like I don't wanna point fingers, but some folks could do with maybe whipping up a quick script and/or doing a rehearsal run before they start recording for real. A bit of "oh I should have built one of these to show this part of the mod off.... okay... hang on.. wait that's not right" is fine with me, since I can always skip ahead, but it definitely looks sloppy.
 

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by sparky » Thu Jan 10, 2019 00:46

I have a few minetest pvp videos that aren't too bad. still no enthusiastic commentary but its pvp so maybe a bit more exciting than lions in savannahs :P
 

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by sofar » Thu Jan 10, 2019 04:05

I made a few videos for ITB (See: https://minetest.foo-projects.org/videos.html ). Of course, the purpose wasn't "cool youtube generation entertainment" but more for people who need to learn how to build boxes and use the special blocks. I haven't gotten too much feedback, though, but it was fun making them and trying to put some quality in them.
 

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by Linuxdirk » Thu Jan 10, 2019 08:34

sofar wrote:I haven't gotten too much feedback, though, but it was fun making them and trying to put some quality in them.

Very straightforward and informative. Quality is great.
 

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by Sokomine » Wed Jan 16, 2019 21:22

runs wrote:Minetest videos are calm = Boring. 30 min or more of the sickle to death, like a documentary about lions in the savannah. The audience is not engaged. It is a big problem!!!

I like that style. And a documentary about lions in the savannah may be great and much more entertaining than say a film about something where the creators forgot the story and just conentrated on special effects. I definitely don't like it if somebody yells loudly. Still, it might be worth if the creator of the video did some preparations and shows what he has to show short and to the point, while other scenes/videos may live from the creator just walking around/building/mining leisurally and talking about some not even MT-related topic.

But then, I'm not a kid anymore. Maybe that audience needs other videos.
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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by Nathan.S » Wed Jan 30, 2019 14:02

runs wrote:OMG, the Minetets reviewers also do not show their faces. People love to know who are the youtubers, especially if they are young and cute.


I show my face in live streams where it's not so much about the content but more about a community experience. The idea behind the mod reviews, and Let's plays isn't for people to focus on me, but the mod or server that I'm recording the video about. If people want to look at somebody's face there are billions of vlog channels they can go to.

Also it's a lot of work to get the video and audio to sync perfectly to use a webcam, and then you need to have a clean room, good lighting, a nice backdrop, far too much work for something that isn't important to the video's content. Oh ya, and I'd have to pretend be young and cute, both of which I do not want to be.
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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by Linuxdirk » Wed Jan 30, 2019 14:21

Nathan.S wrote:Also it's a lot of work to get the video and audio to sync perfectly to use a webcam, and then you need to have a clean room, good lighting, a nice backdrop, [...]

I just set up a webcam and added it as source in OBS. But yes, getting everything in sync is a bit painful in configuration.

The "crystal clear 1080p 30 FPS" webcam ends up with 25 FPS in 800*600 in rather low quality on Linux. So the quality of the facecam is rather low and I had to do some tweaking and I find it sufficient now ... Maybe a real camera connected via HDMI to a capture card would help with improving quality.

My goal is to set up an external cam to record with 60 FPS and record gameplay with 60 FPS (make sure not to drop frames for both recordings but always have 60 FPS no matter what) and import to postprocessing software later.

With this I could even record commentary on the camera and later split the audio so I have gameplay video, facecam video, ingame sound and commentary sound as separate sources and the facecam is "real 1080p60" like the gameplay video (and I can hide or the came on-the-fly if needed what I can do with OBS in a slightly limited way, too).
 

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by Nathan.S » Wed Jan 30, 2019 14:38

My webcam refuses to sync it's own audio and video, which has never made sense to me, doesn't matter which program I use to capture from it either. If I recall correctly the webcam video shows a fraction of a second before the audio, and I can't put a delay on the video, only on audio, which would mean tweaking all audio inputs to get it to align. I spent a decent amount of time working on it several years ago, couldn't get it to sync perfectly and decided against use it as it wasn't worth the trouble.
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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by Linuxdirk » Wed Jan 30, 2019 15:18

Nathan.S wrote:My webcam refuses to sync it's own audio and video,

Yes, this seems to be default on Linux ... Even with high-end webcams (as said: my high-end full HD webcam doesn't even run in full HD. 5 FPS is the maximum I can get. On LQ I get 25-30 FPS) there seems to be no reliable way to get synchronized audio/video or even good quality video.

Nathan.S wrote:If I recall correctly the webcam video shows a fraction of a second before the audio, and I can't put a delay on the video, only on audio, which would mean tweaking all audio inputs to get it to align.

And even then it might not work properly because audio is not synced with video on recording and thus dropped frames are causing the video to be shorter than audio. There is no sane way to fix this (of course you could check synchronicity every 5-10 seconds and split audio and re-align it with video). Those cams are broken by design.

The only reason why my commentary audio and facecam video match (well, at least with only a slight delay) is because the facecam video is forced to 60 FPS and is hard-overlayed to my 60 FPS gameplay video without dropped frames and commentary is recorded with the gameplay video.
 

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Re: More quality videos of Minetest!

by aristotle » Wed Feb 06, 2019 16:04

runs wrote:... Young youtubers that talk with a enthusiastic voice and winking the teen target. ...

Humm.. That is what I frankly hate more of those videos.
In any case they generally give more specialized info: see some red stone tutorials...
runs wrote:...the Minetets reviewers also do not show their faces. People love to know who are the youtubers, especially if they are young and cute.

OMG. I am almost ready to deploy my first MT - YouTube videos and I am already off! Not cute, nor young!!!!!! Though I feel I am! ;D
runs wrote:The opposite would be to condemn Minetest to the most absolute obstracism...

I definitely hope not. Anyway I agree that we should try to better sell this great app/program/whatever you want to call it! :D
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