Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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I'm noticing a number of servers are claiming to offer "0.4 OR 5.0+" support. Anyone have more information about this?

* CatLandia [0.4 OR 5.0+]
* LS-Wonderland [0.4 OR 5.0+]
* Vineland [0.4 OR 5.0+]
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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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From discord:
Eggy1, 10:48
@everyone important announcement! Most major servers are now running on MultiCraft 2.0-beta and SUPPORT CONNECTIONS FROM 0.4 OR 5.0+! This includes: catlandia, ls wonderland, vineland, empire of legends, survivalworks urban edition, steamworks, and frost factions. Multicraft 2.0 is not yet released to the public, EdgyNet is testing beta software. report any bugs to Edgy1. MultiCraft client will also soon be released and will support connecting to any server, 0.4 or 5.0. Minetest 0.4.18-edgy1 will be discontinued in favor of this release.

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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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bosapara wrote:From discord:
Eggy1, 10:48
@everyone important announcement! Most major servers are now running on MultiCraft 2.0-beta and SUPPORT CONNECTIONS FROM 0.4 OR 5.0+! This includes: catlandia, ls wonderland, vineland, empire of legends, survivalworks urban edition, steamworks, and frost factions. Multicraft 2.0 is not yet released to the public, EdgyNet is testing beta software. report any bugs to Edgy1. MultiCraft client will also soon be released and will support connecting to any server, 0.4 or 5.0. Minetest 0.4.18-edgy1 will be discontinued in favor of this release.
Thanks for the info Bosapara!

Anyone know if there any security risks if Minetest 5 users connect to these servers?
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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

by sorcerykid » Post

I wonder what constitutes "most major servers" or if it's only server's hosted by Edgy1 that are considered major given that Edgy1 is the one making the announcement. Nothing biased or misleading about that statement at all :P

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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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sorcerykid wrote:I wonder what constitutes "most major servers" or if it's only server's hosted by Edgy1 that are considered major given that Edgy1 is the one making the announcement. Nothing biased or misleading about that statement at all :P
Perhaps most major 0.4 servers? I don't use 0.4 anymore so I wouldn't know.
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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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redblade7 wrote: Perhaps most major 0.4 servers? I don't use 0.4 anymore so I wouldn't know.
Yes, about 70% users still prefer to use 0.4

sorcerykid wrote:I wonder what constitutes "most major servers" or if it's only server's hosted by Edgy1 that are considered major given that Edgy1 is the one making the announcement. Nothing biased or misleading about that statement at all :P
I guess, Edgy1 just host it.

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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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bosapara wrote:
redblade7 wrote: Perhaps most major 0.4 servers? I don't use 0.4 anymore so I wouldn't know.
Yes, about 70% users still prefer to use 0.4
How many of those 70% are running fake Google Play or iOS clients though?
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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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redblade7 wrote:
bosapara wrote:
redblade7 wrote: Perhaps most major 0.4 servers? I don't use 0.4 anymore so I wouldn't know.
Yes, about 70% users still prefer to use 0.4
How many of those 70% are running fake Google Play or iOS clients though?
~99% as always, main contingent of minetest players (the same for 5.0)

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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

by Festus1965 » Post

so only solution to set 5.x as main =

stop listening servers that are NOT ONLY 5.x protocol and people HAVE to change to legal 5.x ?
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Festus1965 wrote:so only solution to set 5.x as main =

stop listening servers that are NOT ONLY 5.x protocol and people HAVE to change to legal 5.x ?
No because non fork 4.x servers are doing well. You can't force everyone to love 5.x

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"most major servers" = within my network. sorry for the confusion.

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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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No worries, you're doing a great job with your servers. Thanks for keeping the spirit of 0.4.x alive :)

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Thanks :)

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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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To be clear, any server offering 0.4 and 5.0 support is not a Minetest server, it is the MultiCraft fork.

> Anyone know if there any security risks if Minetest 5 users connect to these servers?

MultiCraft is one of the best behaved forks of MT in terms of code, i doubt there is a risk.

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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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Multicraft 2.0 is not yet released to the public, EdgyNet is testing beta software.
When will they release it for the public because we have the right to request for the source code as per GNU LGPL,right?
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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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r1bnc wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 05:05

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Multicraft 2.0 is not yet released to the public, EdgyNet is testing beta software.
When will they release it for the public because we have the right to request for the source code as per GNU LGPL,right?
This will happen sooner or later, but you have no right to request the code, which I use for testing purposes on my PC and do not distribute in binary form anywhere.

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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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MoNTE48 wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 14:56
r1bnc wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 05:05

Code: Select all

Multicraft 2.0 is not yet released to the public, EdgyNet is testing beta software.
When will they release it for the public because we have the right to request for the source code as per GNU LGPL,right?
This will happen sooner or later, but you have no right to request the code, which I use for testing purposes on my PC and do not distribute in binary form anywhere.
Does it mine crypto?

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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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GayJesus wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 20:49
MoNTE48 wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 14:56
r1bnc wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 05:05

Code: Select all

Multicraft 2.0 is not yet released to the public, EdgyNet is testing beta software.
When will they release it for the public because we have the right to request for the source code as per GNU LGPL,right?
This will happen sooner or later, but you have no right to request the code, which I use for testing purposes on my PC and do not distribute in binary form anywhere.
Does it mine crypto?
most likely x_x
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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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MoNTE48 wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 14:56
r1bnc wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 05:05

Code: Select all

Multicraft 2.0 is not yet released to the public, EdgyNet is testing beta software.
When will they release it for the public because we have the right to request for the source code as per GNU LGPL,right?
This will happen sooner or later, but you have no right to request the code, which I use for testing purposes on my PC and do not distribute in binary form anywhere.
What do you mean no right?
You are violating the LGPL because under the terms you must DISCLOSE the source code when requested. -_-

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html
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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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r1bnc wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 01:51
What do you mean no right?
You are violating the LGPL because under the terms you must DISCLOSE the source code when requested. -_-

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html
Not true.

You only need to share the source code if you give binaries to end users. This means that you can modify and use (L)GPL software whilst keeping it to yourself and not need to share the source code - even over a network. But that changes as soon as you give it to someone - the end user.

To require that you share the source code even over a network, we'd need to use the AGPL license

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rubenwardy wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 01:56
r1bnc wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 01:51
What do you mean no right?
You are violating the LGPL because under the terms you must DISCLOSE the source code when requested. -_-

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html
Not true.

You only need to share the source code if you give binaries to end users. This means that you can modify and use (L)GPL software whilst keeping it to yourself and not need to share the source code - even over a network. But that changes as soon as you give it to someone - the end user.

To require that you share the source code even over a network, we'd need to use the AGPL license
I get it now, thanks for clarifying.
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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

by sorcerykid » Post

I apologize if this is a dumb question, but in one post it says "EdgyNet is testing beta software." but then in another post it's confirmed that the software is only on the developer's PC for testing purposes and is not distributed in binary form anywhere.

Does this mean EdgyNet is using Monte48's home computers and network for server hosting?

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Re: Servers claiming to offer 0.4 and 5?

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sorcerykid wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 14:34
I apologize if this is a dumb question, but in one post it says "EdgyNet is testing beta software." but then in another post it's confirmed that the software is only on the developer's PC for testing purposes and is not distributed in binary form anywhere.

Does this mean EdgyNet is using Monte48's home computers and network for server hosting?
Either that or someone's not being honest. lol
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