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Minetest Discord

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I didn't realise there was already one, never mind :)
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Re: Minetest Discord

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Hey, there's already a Minetest discord: https://discord.gg/6W84ytH
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Re: Minetest Discord

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Discord sells your data.

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Re: Minetest Discord

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Discord is awesome with great features... cHyper ;-)

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Re: Minetest Discord

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Could someone here who uses it explain to me if it has any advantages over let's say IRC? I've heard about it and I know that it's some sort of Internet messaging protocol and client but on Wikipedia cannot find much information on its features.
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Re: Minetest Discord

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Discord is a proprietary protocol with a proprietary client and no option to run your own server instances.
It has voice and file sharing, but don't be fooled, you'll be paying for it with your private data, incuding a list of your open processes.
https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord.html

Richard Stallman doesn't recommend using Discord either.
https://stallman.org/discord.html

The people behind Discord have a history of user information abuse.
https://archive.is/Q4N9J
https://archive.is/cJF5S

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Re: Minetest Discord

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I warn you, do not go there. They'll bulling you if they see you stand out, like they did to me.

Run away and don't look back!

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Re: Minetest Discord

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hex wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 22:09
Discord is a proprietary protocol with a proprietary client and no option to run your own server instances.
Unfortunately people just don't care.

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Re: Minetest Discord

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runs wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 02:12
I warn you, do not go there. They'll bulling you if they see you stand out, like they did to me.

Run away and don't look back!
I am honestly stunned that you are so oblivious.

This: https://youtu.be/kuuxMJMLudY

..was not the worst of it. Just before runs was banned he was talking about "strictly over 18+" content in a mod, complaining to rubenwardy who wasn't willing to host that kind of stuff it on his own hardware and something about making children. All of that was messaged within 24hr and so was removed as an automatic byproduct of banning him.

Believe it or not, most people don't like the idea of a barbie cube doll porno.

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Re: Minetest Discord

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The32bitguy wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 20:24
This: …
Too much text that disappears too fast, also too less context.
The32bitguy wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 20:24
Believe it or not, most people don't like the idea of a barbie cube doll porno.
Believe it or not, before the purge there were hours and hours of voxel porn on PornHub (costumes, animations, renderings, all of it). So there ARE people who like it. I personally don’t care much about that but I’m totally not going to kinkshame those people.

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Re: Minetest Discord

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Hey, can we stop filling these kinds of threads with this garbage? Discord users don't go listing all of the reasons why IRC is outdated and unusable every time it's mentioned. Let people use whatever platform they want to use and let them live in peace. If you don't, you are part of the problem. Anyone that has been banned from the Minetest Discord server was handled as such due to non-compliance with the server rules. Whining about it everywhere else just shows your immaturity and how much you probably deserved it.
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Re: Minetest Discord

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As you can see, Discord offers numerous features that IRC lacks, such as high school drama.

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runs wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 02:12
I warn you, do not go there.
Go where?
hex wrote: Discord is a proprietary protocol with a proprietary client and no option to run your own server instances.
It has voice and file sharing, but don't be fooled, you'll be paying for it with your private data, incuding a list of your open processes.
I remember my friend showing me the Discord client and it worked very slow and had ugly UI. I don't see why anybody would want to use this, if you want to share files you can just use regular e-mail.
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Re: Minetest Discord

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The32bitguy wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 20:24
runs wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 02:12
I warn you, do not go there. They'll bulling you if they see you stand out, like they did to me.

Run away and don't look back!
I am honestly stunned that you are so oblivious.
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Believe it or not, most people don't like the idea of a barbie cube doll porno.
This all was clarified in these forums (relating Samantha, a 18 years old character). My mod is PEGI 6 compliant. So don't insist. And stop seeing ghosts where there are none, paranoid.

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Re: Minetest Discord

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GreenXenith wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 22:48
Hey, can we stop filling these kinds of threads with this garbage? Discord users don't go listing all of the reasons why IRC is outdated and unusable every time it's mentimuch you probably deserved it.
If that was my experience, I'm sorry, I must tell. With education or whatever you want, but I must tell. That is my right, I believe.

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Re: Minetest Discord

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runs wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:26
If that was my experience, I'm sorry, I must tell. With education or whatever you want, but I must tell. That is my right, I believe.
Correct - try to silence others with facts about data security is wrong
but I also didn't join Discord long time ago - as I had also other issues.

Facts and discussion MUST be free, and then everyone can choose
but as German Army Trainer 3 years IT-Security ... Discord = NO

No fun ?
If the facts here where wrong and false, then admin and mods might close the thread with clear facts showing there "truth", and that didn't happen also.
More interesting why they keep so silent about even "official" using Discord with all this issues.

That smells already ...
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Re: Minetest Discord

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GreenXenith wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 22:48
Let people use whatever platform they want to use and let them live in peace. If you don't, you are part of the problem
I don't agree: to inform and take a stand is legit, to force is not. Hex may lack of touch, but he didn't force anyone and he actually spoke the truth without forcing anyone (I mean, neocities does its best to look like tinfoil and out of this world, but heh..)
MHL wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 04:50
if you want to share files you can just use regular e-mail.
How about a carrier pigeon? Seriously though, there are way better alternatives, why limiting ourselves when these exist? Also, UI is subjective

For the author: I know Discord is the most used software by gamers warts and all, just, if you're interested in free software, Minetest has also a Matrix room. Contrary to Discord, it respects users privacy, and contrary to IRC, it doesn't look like something belonging to the 90s (it has all modern features like emoji reactions, text formatting, file sharing etc). If you wanna give it a try, you're more than welcome :) You can also pick whatever client you want, I suggest you Element => https://element.io/
The room is #minetest-matrix:tchncs.de, but you can easily find it just by typing "Minetest" in the search bar. Also, because I don't want to lie to you, the major missing feature are the vocal rooms Discord has. I hope they'll implement eventually, they're very active when it comes to developing

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Re: Minetest Discord

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Festus1965 wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:49
runs wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:26
If that was my experience, I'm sorry, I must tell. With education or whatever you want, but I must tell. That is my right, I believe.
Correct - try to silence others with facts about data security is wrong
but I also didn't join Discord long time ago - as I had also other issues.

Facts and discussion MUST be free, and then everyone can choose
but as German Army Trainer 3 years IT-Security ... Discord = NO

No fun ?
If the facts here where wrong and false, then admin and mods might close the thread with clear facts showing there "truth", and that didn't happen also.
More interesting why they keep so silent about even "official" using Discord with all this issues.

That smells already ...
Minetest Discord is NOT official. So one must be able to speak freely about it. It is not part of Minetest. When I speak ill of Minetest Discord, I am not speaking of Minetest, but of a freak created outside. The Minetest admins should not, should not, get involved.

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Re: Minetest Discord

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Matrix is quite nice, and has certainly improved since I last tried it. I miss having servers and permissions systems (communities don't cut it), as well as the aforementioned lack of voice chat
runs wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:56
Minetest Discord is NOT official. So one must be able to speak freely about it. It is not part of Minetest.
You could speak freely about even if it were official
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Re: Minetest Discord

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Zughy wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:53
GreenXenith wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 22:48
Let people use whatever platform they want to use and let them live in peace. If you don't, you are part of the problem
I don't agree: to inform and take a stand is legit, to force is not. Hex may lack of touch, but he didn't force anyone and he actually spoke the truth without forcing anyone (I mean, neocities does its best to look like tinfoil and out of this world, but heh..)
MHL wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 04:50
if you want to share files you can just use regular e-mail.
How about a carrier pigeon? Seriously though, there are way better alternatives, why limiting ourselves when these exist? Also, UI is subjective

For the author: I know Discord is the most used software by gamers warts and all, just, if you're interested in free software, Minetest has also a Matrix room. Contrary to Discord, it respects users privacy, and contrary to IRC, it doesn't look like something belonging to the 90s (it has all modern features like emoji reactions, text formatting, file sharing etc). If you wanna give it a try, you're more than welcome :) You can also pick whatever client you want, I suggest you Element => https://element.io/
The room is #minetest-matrix:tchncs.de, but you can easily find it just by typing "Minetest" in the search bar. Also, because I don't want to lie to you, the major missing feature are the vocal rooms Discord has. I hope they'll implement eventually, they're very active when it comes to developing
I'm aware that people are going to make sure they use it, just because it's popular. It's the same case as Whatsapp, against Signal or Telegram.

But as Asterix I am incorruptible. My principles are above all else. Swimming against the tide sometimes, it's hard sometimes, but it strengthens your resistance.

Decent people should use sustainable alternatives.

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Re: Minetest Discord

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I really do not understand why nowadays every each and then the wheel must be reinvented only not to look like something old.

Convenience is usually paid with your data. I wait for the moment when it will be too inconvenient to even use
the actually hip chat apps. What will be next ? Just leave everything to chat and play bots ? That would be even more
convenient than using a headset. Or some super retro, using the keyboard again app ?

But to answer the question, if you have no problem in giving your data away for free, continue using discord.

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Re: Minetest Discord

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User experience does matter, and there's no reason why open source software can't have a good user experience as well. IRC has a lot of users, but it's not the only FOSS chat software out there
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Re: Minetest Discord

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Linuxdirk wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 21:31
Too much text that disappears too fast, also too less context.
Press spacebar
Context https://discord.gg/z4A8rPSC4p

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Re: Minetest Discord

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I would like to go back to Minetest Discord to find out what they are talking about me. Can an admin unban me?

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Re: Minetest Discord

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The32bitguy wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 20:56
Linuxdirk wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 21:31
Too much text that disappears too fast, also too less context.
Stop playing your friend, the Chinese guy, and go.

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