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On GH, I suggested Aixel, AI + -xel. Pronounced like axle.
Spin it how you want...... :)
A pun, and a tag line, and a marketing gimmick. All in one.
Someone previously suggested Proxel was taken. Aixel most likely is not, and is freely available from me.
Aixel, the 4D programmable "voxel"
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Spin it how you want...... :)
A pun, and a tag line, and a marketing gimmick. All in one.
Someone previously suggested Proxel was taken. Aixel most likely is not, and is freely available from me.
Aixel, the 4D programmable "voxel"
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Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
I'm not voting for either of these for too may reasons to get into.
Adding my own suggestions, just to be annoying as well as to keep to tradition of how these posts go
Open VoxGen
or
ComVoxGen (community driven voxel engine/generator
"because VoxGen alone would have problems from the start in a search"
The name CelerGen is already spoken for too... Perhaps we could merge and use the profits from vitamin sales to put into the project? Better bodies AND a better MineTest!
... clearly a total Win Win in my opinion.
Most of us have seen this exact topic arise over and over, and seen, or even presented our own ridiculous and horrible names, mostly out of amusement or fun.
I once suggested calling the project BOB, and I am still completely serious because... why the hell not?
An acronym for "Because Of Bob", and then people can wonder "But who's Bob?!" for years to come...
But no one can ever let anyone know that Bob, created celeron55 (wink)
... dang it.
Adding my own suggestions, just to be annoying as well as to keep to tradition of how these posts go
Open VoxGen
or
ComVoxGen (community driven voxel engine/generator
"because VoxGen alone would have problems from the start in a search"
The name CelerGen is already spoken for too... Perhaps we could merge and use the profits from vitamin sales to put into the project? Better bodies AND a better MineTest!
... clearly a total Win Win in my opinion.
Most of us have seen this exact topic arise over and over, and seen, or even presented our own ridiculous and horrible names, mostly out of amusement or fun.
I once suggested calling the project BOB, and I am still completely serious because... why the hell not?
An acronym for "Because Of Bob", and then people can wonder "But who's Bob?!" for years to come...
But no one can ever let anyone know that Bob, created celeron55 (wink)
... dang it.
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And then rename Minetest Sam to Bob Bob.
Because of Bob, Bob. An infinitely nested loop of an inside joke...... decrypt that.
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Because of Bob, Bob. An infinitely nested loop of an inside joke...... decrypt that.
Shad
Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
i get the impression that people want to get away from comparisons with minecraft, but this is exactly why and how i found minetest. and i guess a lot of other users have done so too.
renaming the engine, now that it has become more than that, is fine by me, but that's just the background.
i wouldn't have looked for proxel or become interested in it because i was purposely looking for something like minetest.
last time i checked, MTG was still build-in with the engine so even if you don't want the game you'd still get it. i don't see why the name should be changed when this is what it is.
when the engine becomes a standalone project, then it can have whatever name and MTG becomes Minetest with a dependency on the engine. problem solved.
and since many open-source projects appear to use puns or other witty jokes for their names, my suggestion is Celery (the vegetable) because it sounds like Celeron and has the same kind of humour as projects like Coffee and Tea Time.
then we can say "this game is called Minetest and it runs on Celery".
renaming the engine, now that it has become more than that, is fine by me, but that's just the background.
i wouldn't have looked for proxel or become interested in it because i was purposely looking for something like minetest.
last time i checked, MTG was still build-in with the engine so even if you don't want the game you'd still get it. i don't see why the name should be changed when this is what it is.
when the engine becomes a standalone project, then it can have whatever name and MTG becomes Minetest with a dependency on the engine. problem solved.
and since many open-source projects appear to use puns or other witty jokes for their names, my suggestion is Celery (the vegetable) because it sounds like Celeron and has the same kind of humour as projects like Coffee and Tea Time.
then we can say "this game is called Minetest and it runs on Celery".
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PROXEL IS BAD NAME
It Is A Potency Enhancer
look the screenshot
It Is A Potency Enhancer
look the screenshot
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Yep. Same as what I came up with a few days ago when I said 'Proxel' was taken.
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As a fluent if maybe a bit rusty speaker I have to point out that the translation "box" for poki maybe isn't wrong per se but it refers to a box in terms of function (something that can contain something) not in terms of shape. poki does not mean cube shaped object! A better translation for that would be something like sijelo linja (straight body).
I'd personally suggest not to use a toki pona name, if you wanted to actually convey these fairly abstract concepts you can't do it with a couple of words. If you actually wanted to put some meaning in you'd end either up with something long or super general sounding:
* musi pali (game of creating)
* musi ma suli (game of large land)
* musi pali kepeken sijelo linja (game of creating using straight bodies)
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To maybe make it clearer: a chest sure is a poki, a node of cobble certainly is not.
I just remembered I used to refer to minetest as musi Manitesa (tokiponized "minetest", the capital letter indicating an unofficial/loan word)
I just remembered I used to refer to minetest as musi Manitesa (tokiponized "minetest", the capital letter indicating an unofficial/loan word)
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why not make the name more weird?
i dont speak filippino, its translated lol
Tagabuo ng Voxel
with names like:
kreibloko - sounds like african puzzle game
palipoki - sounds like kid's game, but after the hated
server discussion, it fits lol
musi pali - muskátli? wtf its a flower
musi ma suli - i dont want to go school "suli" mean
school
Proxel i dont want to play a potency enhancer
based game
Shad said a better one, Bob Bob, i can imagine Bob
Bob as a game name, it fits better than minetest
or wait...
i know the best name! multicraft
i dont speak filippino, its translated lol
Tagabuo ng Voxel
with names like:
kreibloko - sounds like african puzzle game
palipoki - sounds like kid's game, but after the hated
server discussion, it fits lol
musi pali - muskátli? wtf its a flower
musi ma suli - i dont want to go school "suli" mean
school
Proxel i dont want to play a potency enhancer
based game
Shad said a better one, Bob Bob, i can imagine Bob
Bob as a game name, it fits better than minetest
or wait...
i know the best name! multicraft
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reddit found the best name lol
this is a meme wich is dead now but
looks like fits here...
this is a meme wich is dead now but
looks like fits here...
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Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
Since this dumb argument seems to be continuing, let's just agree upon a name we can all agree on:
56i-blokc_game (misspelling intentional) (leave the first brackets in) (leave those brackets in)
Where the 56i comes from my involvement in the community.
I can see it everywhere "56i-blokc_game (misspelling intentional) (leave the first brackets in) forums"
"56i-blokc_game (misspelling intentional) (leave the first brackets in) content database"
We can even make an acronym: 56IBOGA(MI)(LTFBI), yeah "56IBOGA(MI)(LTFBI) player", "56IBOGA(MI)(LTFBI) programmer".
Let's work on implementation. I'm currently working on using find and replace to replacye Minetest with 56IBOGA_MI__LTFBI_ in all places (underscore for lua compatibilities).
I'm using a potato, so expect the pull request next week.
56i-blokc_game (misspelling intentional) (leave the first brackets in) (leave those brackets in)
Where the 56i comes from my involvement in the community.
I can see it everywhere "56i-blokc_game (misspelling intentional) (leave the first brackets in) forums"
"56i-blokc_game (misspelling intentional) (leave the first brackets in) content database"
We can even make an acronym: 56IBOGA(MI)(LTFBI), yeah "56IBOGA(MI)(LTFBI) player", "56IBOGA(MI)(LTFBI) programmer".
Let's work on implementation. I'm currently working on using find and replace to replacye Minetest with 56IBOGA_MI__LTFBI_ in all places (underscore for lua compatibilities).
I'm using a potato, so expect the pull request next week.
Warnig: Al my laguage ekscept English is bad, includig Hungarian (magyàränoлиски), Spanish (esпagnyoл), and Russian (рÿсскïанöл).
Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
KreiBloko,
PaliPoki,
NodeNicks,
EngineBlock,
OpVox,
FreeVoxel,
ItemNest,
Kubo,
Kubik,
ApertaCubum,
LibertasCubus,
CubiMachina,
64KCubed,
NotMineCraft,
VoxelCosmos,
Osgev,
Mine Test,
Test Your Mine,
Test Of Mines,
VoxelDoboz,
VoxelCrate,
WorldWonder,
NatureWonders,
Proxel,
Minet,
Bloxel,
Doxel,
OpenMined,
Aixel,
Open VoxGen,
ComVoxGen,
Celery,
musi pali,
musi ma suli,
musi pali kepeken sijelo linja,
Tagabuo ng Voxel,
M OWO GANG,
56i-blokc_game,
Seriously?
PaliPoki,
NodeNicks,
EngineBlock,
OpVox,
FreeVoxel,
ItemNest,
Kubo,
Kubik,
ApertaCubum,
LibertasCubus,
CubiMachina,
64KCubed,
NotMineCraft,
VoxelCosmos,
Osgev,
Mine Test,
Test Your Mine,
Test Of Mines,
VoxelDoboz,
VoxelCrate,
WorldWonder,
NatureWonders,
Proxel,
Minet,
Bloxel,
Doxel,
OpenMined,
Aixel,
Open VoxGen,
ComVoxGen,
Celery,
musi pali,
musi ma suli,
musi pali kepeken sijelo linja,
Tagabuo ng Voxel,
M OWO GANG,
56i-blokc_game,
Seriously?
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NodeNicks sounds gooood
yes seriousliy!
wait, Bloxel also sounds good lol
You Dont Included Bob Bob!!!!
yes seriousliy!
wait, Bloxel also sounds good lol
You Dont Included Bob Bob!!!!
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Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
KreiBloko,
PaliPoki,
NodeNicks,
EngineBlock,
OpVox,
FreeVoxel,
ItemNest,
Kubo,
Kubik,
ApertaCubum,
LibertasCubus,
CubiMachina,
64KCubed,
NotMineCraft,
VoxelCosmos,
Osgev,
Mine Test,
Test Your Mine,
Test Of Mines,
VoxelDoboz,
VoxelCrate,
WorldWonder,
NatureWonders,
Proxel,
Minet,
Bloxel,
Doxel,
OpenMined,
Aixel,
Open VoxGen,
ComVoxGen
Bob Bob,
Celery,
musi pali,
musi ma suli,
musi pali kepeken sijelo linja,
Tagabuo ng Voxel,
M OWO GANG,
56i-blokc_game,
That better?!
PaliPoki,
NodeNicks,
EngineBlock,
OpVox,
FreeVoxel,
ItemNest,
Kubo,
Kubik,
ApertaCubum,
LibertasCubus,
CubiMachina,
64KCubed,
NotMineCraft,
VoxelCosmos,
Osgev,
Mine Test,
Test Your Mine,
Test Of Mines,
VoxelDoboz,
VoxelCrate,
WorldWonder,
NatureWonders,
Proxel,
Minet,
Bloxel,
Doxel,
OpenMined,
Aixel,
Open VoxGen,
ComVoxGen
Bob Bob,
Celery,
musi pali,
musi ma suli,
musi pali kepeken sijelo linja,
Tagabuo ng Voxel,
M OWO GANG,
56i-blokc_game,
That better?!
Nope!
Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
So it seems to me that you have chosen to 3: Keep arguing. 'Cause that always helps... NOT. Sometimes it is better to just stop. And in my opinion, now is the time to stop.
Nope!
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Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
Well, some of us have already known what we wanted for a while: keep the name Minetest or ONLY rename Minetest Engine like the pyrogenisis engine that 0A.D. works from (a different name for the game than the engine), it's the community itself as a whole that is still taking its time. Because in the community, every opinion is represented, so even if a majority were shown arguing would still happen, but on a smaller scale. This doesn't mean you can altogether disregard it, because if you measure the majority wrong you will get a larger amount of disagreeing counterparts to the problem than expected. Above all it is important to not try to push an idea that is against the majority, you also need a larger majority than usual because of the size of the Minetest community
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Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
Time to take more part in the current bikesheddery.
Some ideas I had:
* "MiNetEst" (in small "minetest"): Spongebob would like this.
* "MinetSet" ("minetset"): Sounds like some set named after some french mathematician.
* "OursShed" or "Oursshed" ("oursshed"): "Ours" is the evolution of "Mine". And "Shed" because of the bikeshedding, which is an important aspect of minetest. Beware of the SS. An issue is that if you speak it, people will try to write it as "hourshed" or something like that.
Some ideas I had:
* "MiNetEst" (in small "minetest"): Spongebob would like this.
* "MinetSet" ("minetset"): Sounds like some set named after some french mathematician.
* "OursShed" or "Oursshed" ("oursshed"): "Ours" is the evolution of "Mine". And "Shed" because of the bikeshedding, which is an important aspect of minetest. Beware of the SS. An issue is that if you speak it, people will try to write it as "hourshed" or something like that.
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Here is an easier-to-read List of the current names. (With the latest three):
1. KreiBloko,-----------------------11. LibertasCubus,---------------21.VoxelCrate,
2. PaliPoki,-------------------------12. CubiMachina,-----------------22. WorldWonder,
3. NodeNicks,---------------------13. 64KCubed,--------------------23. NatureWonders,
4. EngineBlock,-------------------14. NotMineCraft,-----------------24. Proxel,
5. OpVox,---------------------------15. VoxelCosmos,----------------25. Minet,
6. FreeVoxel,----------------------16. Osgev,--------------------------26. Bloxel,
7. ItemNest,------------------------17. Mine Test,---------------------27. Doxel,
8. Kubo,-----------------------------18. Test Your Mine,--------------28. OpenMined,
9. Kubik,----------------------------19. Test Of Mines,----------------29. Aixel,
10. ApertaCubum,----------------20. VoxelDoboz,------------------30. Open VoxGen,
31. ComVoxGen------------------41. MinetSet,
32. Bob Bob,----------------------42. OursShed,
33. Celery,
34. musi pali,
35. musi ma suli,
36. musi pali kepeken
sijelo linja,
37. Tagabuo ng Voxel,
38. M OWO GANG,
39. 56i-blokc_game,
40. MiNetEst,
We currently have 42 bad names! way to NOT go!
But seriously, can't we just think of good names? Please? Please?
1. KreiBloko,-----------------------11. LibertasCubus,---------------21.VoxelCrate,
2. PaliPoki,-------------------------12. CubiMachina,-----------------22. WorldWonder,
3. NodeNicks,---------------------13. 64KCubed,--------------------23. NatureWonders,
4. EngineBlock,-------------------14. NotMineCraft,-----------------24. Proxel,
5. OpVox,---------------------------15. VoxelCosmos,----------------25. Minet,
6. FreeVoxel,----------------------16. Osgev,--------------------------26. Bloxel,
7. ItemNest,------------------------17. Mine Test,---------------------27. Doxel,
8. Kubo,-----------------------------18. Test Your Mine,--------------28. OpenMined,
9. Kubik,----------------------------19. Test Of Mines,----------------29. Aixel,
10. ApertaCubum,----------------20. VoxelDoboz,------------------30. Open VoxGen,
31. ComVoxGen------------------41. MinetSet,
32. Bob Bob,----------------------42. OursShed,
33. Celery,
34. musi pali,
35. musi ma suli,
36. musi pali kepeken
sijelo linja,
37. Tagabuo ng Voxel,
38. M OWO GANG,
39. 56i-blokc_game,
40. MiNetEst,
We currently have 42 bad names! way to NOT go!
But seriously, can't we just think of good names? Please? Please?
Nope!
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Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
yhteisön moottori (quite a long name) "community engine" F-
pelimoottori ( a little better, quick, to the point) "game engine" C
moottori (not bad, very precise ) "engine" or "the engine" A++
(it's also not that unfamiliar with minetest, visually) if anyone understands me on this.
There is an "m" and a "t" in familiar places. This may seem odd to point out top some, but it is actually a decent point on a psychological level.
the problem I can see, is it is also the name of a very popular magazine (could this pose a serious issue?)
how could this be avoided through some creativity?
as far as I know, celeron prefers to try to stick with a Finnish based name "if" there is to be a change/
Maybe he's not to specific to this lately?
I will say anything focusing on "voxel" is just going to be a fail, stay away from voxel, cube, etc... it's tacky, and over used.
In my opinion, the simplest, most to the point name is best... people will still find the project and the description will be available when they do, same as it has always worked.
If there is to actually finally be a name change, there will be more than enough information to know it is "MineTest"
We're not trying to "market" the software as such in a commercial sense, just to have a better and more reasonably descriptive (and yes, "catchy" name that will grow on you)... like a fungus
pelimoottori ( a little better, quick, to the point) "game engine" C
moottori (not bad, very precise ) "engine" or "the engine" A++
(it's also not that unfamiliar with minetest, visually) if anyone understands me on this.
There is an "m" and a "t" in familiar places. This may seem odd to point out top some, but it is actually a decent point on a psychological level.
the problem I can see, is it is also the name of a very popular magazine (could this pose a serious issue?)
how could this be avoided through some creativity?
as far as I know, celeron prefers to try to stick with a Finnish based name "if" there is to be a change/
Maybe he's not to specific to this lately?
I will say anything focusing on "voxel" is just going to be a fail, stay away from voxel, cube, etc... it's tacky, and over used.
In my opinion, the simplest, most to the point name is best... people will still find the project and the description will be available when they do, same as it has always worked.
If there is to actually finally be a name change, there will be more than enough information to know it is "MineTest"
We're not trying to "market" the software as such in a commercial sense, just to have a better and more reasonably descriptive (and yes, "catchy" name that will grow on you)... like a fungus
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Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
That is the point.SuperStarSonic wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 17:01
Well, some of us have already known what we wanted for a while: keep the name Minetest or ONLY rename Minetest Engine like the pyrogenisis engine that 0A.D. works from (a different name for the game than the engine)
"minetest game" is... frozen in time. it is not included in this topic
focus has been on the engine right along...
games are up to end users/developers to create and market to the public
pyrogenisis is a horrid name btw... yet they still pulled it off, because most people don't really care to focus on the name of the engine, most of the general population of users focus on the game it is powered by
only those interested in coding/developing look into the engine, and don't really care about the name in the end/
This is why I stated we could literally name the engine "BOB"... because it's true
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Those weren't meant as suggestions lol just more appropriate toki pona constructions than "pali poki".
I mostly just wanted to point out that poki does not refer to box shapes at all. Which is why the originally suggested one simply does not mean what people thought it means when they translated the word box to a 120 word language.
"pali poki" would translate as "container related work"
I mostly just wanted to point out that poki does not refer to box shapes at all. Which is why the originally suggested one simply does not mean what people thought it means when they translated the word box to a 120 word language.
"pali poki" would translate as "container related work"
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Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
Although I like the meanings, the names you mentioned are long and very hard to pronounce.TumeniNodes wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 19:18yhteisön moottori (quite a long name) "community engine" F-
pelimoottori ( a little better, quick, to the point) "game engine" C
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Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
which is why I graded them so poorly and broke it down to just using moottoriWilderness wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 19:51Although I like the meanings, the names you mentioned are long and very hard to pronounce.TumeniNodes wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 19:18yhteisön moottori (quite a long name) "community engine" F-
pelimoottori ( a little better, quick, to the point) "game engine" C
Or, just really get sassy and go with "eMTe" and let the hatahs hate 8^)
This could be done as "ever MineTest evolving" ... which is symbolic of MineTest being surrounded by an "ever evolving" community and development... (damn I'm good)
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Re: The best name instead of Minetest is...
OK, so voxely related names no longer apply.
Yet, the world generates one mapblock at a time. So I still have to somehow generate the non-voxel world one "voxel" at a time, just mapblock, instead of node block.
Oh, well. Moving on...... :)
I now vote for 'eMTe'. You keep the MT. Encasing MT with the letter 'e' gives you a word, easily pronounced like the english word 'empty', and keeps the MT, which is how we should just call it.
Can't think of a project that would use this name, but it fits here so appropriately!!!
MT stands for Minetest, for those who've used the abbreviation before. When pronounced, in English, it sounds like the word 'empty'.
Why does this fit? An MT world is empty until you build it.
How much more appropriate could a name be?
eMTe. Fill it. Build it. Paint it. Craft it. Code it.
Shad
btw, +1 Tumeni :)
Yet, the world generates one mapblock at a time. So I still have to somehow generate the non-voxel world one "voxel" at a time, just mapblock, instead of node block.
Oh, well. Moving on...... :)
I now vote for 'eMTe'. You keep the MT. Encasing MT with the letter 'e' gives you a word, easily pronounced like the english word 'empty', and keeps the MT, which is how we should just call it.
Can't think of a project that would use this name, but it fits here so appropriately!!!
MT stands for Minetest, for those who've used the abbreviation before. When pronounced, in English, it sounds like the word 'empty'.
Why does this fit? An MT world is empty until you build it.
How much more appropriate could a name be?
eMTe. Fill it. Build it. Paint it. Craft it. Code it.
Shad
btw, +1 Tumeni :)
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