Climbable trees should exist

[Otter]

I can walk on the tops of trees, but I cannot climb them. I am a sad and weird monkey indeed. :(
A mod that allowed leaves to act like ladders would be kind of cool. Thorny trees could be excluded.

[MineYoshi]

Maybe adding vines to the trees, and make them climbable would be easier to do.

I'm just saying, anyways it's needed some way to climb trees as you've said.

[Otter]

Vines are cool, especially if you want to get into a tree. I kind of like the feel of the limbs being out of reach normally. If leaves are like ladders only much harder to see through, you have to work to get into the tree. If you can reach the leaves, then having them act like a ladder would allow you to easily move through the tree. The hard part is getting into the tree. It would also mean that you could easily move to a void and fall out of the tree if you are not careful. :)

This may take a bit of experimentation. Thinking about climbing, it is quite hard to get a hand over the highest leaf even if you are a light agile expert climber. So making leaves like ladders that you cannot get over the top of, would make it even better.
In Minetest I can climb the two meters above a ladder and stand on the top of the ladder. I think having a strong limb (2 leaves over each other) should be what it takes for leaves to support you and you should not be able to climb above them. This would reduce the number of users that will decide to use leaves as ladders the way that some folk make water tube elevators.

[kaadmy]

Trees and underwater are two areas that Minetest doesn't utilize well.

[ExeterDad]

Tree climbing is interesting. Too bad ladder climbing code can't be used in default tree nodes. Except after it has been dug.

[kaadmy]

Why would it have to be a hand-placed node to use as a ladder?
Also ladders assume the player is intersecting into part of the full node size, so making a tree trunk climbable don't change anything.

[Otter]

I go to, game\minetest_game\default\nodes.lua and examine ladders,
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minetest.register_node("default:ladder_wood", {
description = "Wooden Ladder",
drawtype = "signlike",
tiles = {"default_ladder_wood.png"},
inventory_image = "default_ladder_wood.png",
wield_image = "default_ladder_wood.png",
paramtype = "light",
paramtype2 = "wallmounted",
sunlight_propagates = true,
walkable = false,
climbable = true,
is_ground_content = false,
selection_box = {
type = "wallmounted",
--wall_top = = <default>
--wall_bottom = = <default>
--wall_side = = <default>
},
groups = {choppy = 2, oddly_breakable_by_hand = 3, flammable = 2},
legacy_wallmounted = true,
sounds = default.node_sound_wood_defaults(),
})
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So I figure, I just add climbable=true to default:leaves, no luck. I figure I need to make leaves where I can pass through them to get inside them to climb them. I have thrashed around and not figured out how to do it. :(
I am not sure what adding walkable = false, does. I added that to and I can still walk on the leaves an I can't pass through them.

As a correction, I just figured out that I had a mod that was changing leaves and messing up the base mod.
By changing leaves in game\minetest_game\default\nodes.lua
and adding the lines,"

-- make trees climbable
walkable = false,
climbable = true,
-- end make trees climbable change
"
just before the line that says,
"is_ground_content = false,"

you will be able to climb trees. First you have to get up in the tree though.

[Otter]

This modification makes you a total monkey boy. You can sail through leaves. Pretty fun, but then you hit a void and fall out of the tree. Safe enough in apple trees, doing it in a jungle might be bad.
This makes running through the woods a lot more fun. If this was linked to a skill or a potion it would be a pretty cool effect. As it is, it is a little bit too wonderful and easy to climb. If it kept you from getting above the tree and dropped you if the layer wasn't thick enough it might be better. It is kind of limited as you can't really see where you are going.

[Otter]

I put the mod here:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17754

[paramat]

Jungletrees already have vines in the texture, you can make the trunks climbable by using a mod to surround the trunks with 'airlike' nodes that are 'climbable', as in my 'watershed' mod:

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minetest.register_node("watershed:vine", {
	description = "Jungletree vine",
	drawtype = "airlike",
	paramtype = "light",
	walkable = false,
	climbable = true,
	pointable = false,
	diggable = false,
	buildable_to = true,
	is_ground_content = false,
	groups = {not_in_creative_inventory = 1},
})

[Otter]

Jungletrees already have vines in the texture, you can make the trunks climbable by using a mod to surround the trunks with 'airlike' nodes that are 'climbable', as in my 'watershed' mod:

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minetest.register_node("watershed:vine", {
	description = "Jungletree vine",
	drawtype = "airlike",
	paramtype = "light",
	walkable = false,
	climbable = true,
	pointable = false,
	diggable = false,
	buildable_to = true,
	is_ground_content = false,
	groups = {not_in_creative_inventory = 1},
})

I like it. If a block that mostly resembles stone or dirt was made with a mark to show a hand hold, and the block made the air in a cube around it climbable, then rock climbing is a thing. :)

[maikerumine]

Tree climbing is interesting. Too bad ladder climbing code can't be used in default tree nodes. Except after it has been dug.

That is interesting. I figured just add climbable = true to default:tree etc and it would work, right?

[BBmine]

Tree climbing is interesting. Too bad ladder climbing code can't be used in default tree nodes. Except after it has been dug.

That is interesting. I figured just add climbable = true to default:tree etc and it would work, right?

No, you'd have to be inside the trunk to climb it. Ladders aren't full node size.

[zing269]

[I like it. If a block that mostly resembles stone or dirt was made with a mark to show a hand hold, and the block made the air in a cube around it climbable, then rock climbing is a thing. :)

You might be interested in this: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17069

[XtremeHacker]

What if we made a vine node, like the ladder, had had them covor say the jungle trees, and remove the vines from the jungle log texture @Paramat?

[kaadmy]

Isn't that exactly what Minecraft does? ;)

[XtremeHacker]

Is there anything wrong with that?
I personally like the idea of climbable vines, and it would be nice to not have the vines "buil in" to the jungle tree texture, as it makes the log not so desired for building, and just would be more interesting IMHO.

[TumeniNodes]

I can walk on the tops of trees, but I cannot climb them. I am a sad and weird monkey indeed. :(
A mod that allowed leaves to act like ladders would be kind of cool. Thorny trees could be excluded.

just want to aim your direction at this ---> https://github.com/pithydon/climbing_leaves

have not checked it out myself but, maybe what you are looking for, or something you could adjust to your needs

[TumeniNodes]

What if we made a vine node, like the ladder, had had them covor say the jungle trees, and remove the vines from the jungle log texture @Paramat?

just create a mod for it.

you can have vines on jungle trees as well as hanging from leaves, randomly

a really cool feature, would be vines you can actually swing from! (swing from tree to tree)

yes, I am still anxious to create a minetest version of the old Atari game Pitfall :P