Apple trees with their own wood?

Appletrees with their own wood?

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Apple trees with their own wood?

by LNJ » Post

I think it isn't a bad idea to make apple trees with their own wood, leaves and planks like this:
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So, you can build more various houses.
Perhaps the planks can be a little bit red.
What do you think about it?
I didn't make a mod for it, because the generation of the default trees is into the engine (C++-Code) from Minetest.
Some people want to have more various wood (for example: koerb at [server removed]).

And here are the textures by jbb (into the minetest forum too):
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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by TenPlus1 » Post

The default tree in minetest IS an apple tree, some spawn randomly with fruit while others do not...

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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by maikerumine » Post

I think it would add to inventory clutter, as there would be another type of wood to stack.
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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by Thermal_Shock » Post

Would apple wood have it's own planks, or just the default wood?

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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by Topywo » Post

The idea is nice, but indeed it would clutter inventory. Iirc there's an apple tree in the moretrees mod with it's own wood.

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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

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Thermal_Shock wrote:Would apple wood have it's own planks, or just the default wood?
With planks. So you can build more various houses.
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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by LNJ » Post

TenPlus1 wrote:The default tree in minetest IS an apple tree, some spawn randomly with fruit while others do not...
No it isn't an apple tree. If all default trees in Minetest were an apple tree it would be named so!
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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

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Default trees are apple trees, so don't give those different trunks.
It would be boring when every apple tree would wear apples.
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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by TenPlus1 » Post

The ingame code says it all, the default tree in minetest is an apple tree with a 1 in 10 chance of producing fruit, hence a lot of empty trees...

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Spawn a small apple tree:
apple_tree={
axiom="FFFFFAFFBF",
rules_a="[&&&FFFFF&&FFFF][&&&++++FFFFF&&FFFF][&&&----FFFFF&&FFFF]",
rules_b="[&&&++FFFFF&&FFFF][&&&--FFFFF&&FFFF][&&&------FFFFF&&FFFF]",
trunk="default:tree",
leaves="default:leaves",
angle=30,
iterations=2,
random_level=0,
trunk_type="single",
thin_branches=true,
fruit_chance=10,
fruit="default:apple"
}
minetest.spawn_tree(pos,apple_tree)

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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by jbb » Post

Yes good idea!
With more different wood you could design better houses.
Minetest would develop further, but still be different from minecraft
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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by LNJ » Post

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Okay I believe you. Sorry.
I thought ...
And that means that Minetest has just apple trees?! (and jungle- and pinetrees)
But on my private server I've got now apple trees and trees!
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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by Sokomine » Post

Diffrent trees - complete with diffrent wood types - offer people the option to build with diffrent wood types and thus create nicer houses. Just take a look at RealTest! That has several wood types by default, and the houses look more intresting than with normal wood alone.

I'd also love to see cherry trees in the game. Their wood could be more reddish. Jungletree wood used to be a lot darker than it is now; the old color was more practical for diffrent types of buildings.

Moretrees cannot fill this gap as moretree trees are too large for convenient harvesting. Instead, a few more normal trees with diffrent wood types would be far more helpful and make the game more intresting. The pine trees are a good start.
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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by Thermal_Shock » Post

LNJ wrote:
Thermal_Shock wrote:Would apple wood have it's own planks, or just the default wood?
With planks. So you can build more various houses.
Sounds good to me. My only suggestion is that you make the texture different from the default not just in colour, but in grain pattern as well. That way mods with coloured wood stain will have blocks that stand out more from each other.

I'm a bit puzzled by the objection against adding more blocks because of inventory clutter. Being a building game a wide selection of building materials would be ideal for me. I had jumped ship from Minecraft mostly because I thought it's building options were crap.

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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

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Sokomine wrote:Diffrent trees - complete with diffrent wood types - offer people the option to build with diffrent wood types and thus create nicer houses.

Moretrees cannot fill this gap as moretree trees are too large for convenient harvesting. Instead, a few more normal trees with diffrent wood types would be far more helpful and make the game more intresting.
I agree, more colors = better buildings. There's a mod to fill that "gap" with smaller trees: tiny trees
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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

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Sokomine wrote:... Jungletree wood used to be a lot darker than it is now; the old color was more practical for diffrent types of buildings.

Moretrees cannot fill this gap as moretree trees are too large for convenient harvesting. Instead, a few more normal trees with diffrent wood types would be far more helpful and make the game more intresting. The pine trees are a good start.
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I know the mods Tiny trees and More Trees but I don't want to have all the trees from them!
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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by LazyJ » Post

I'll toss in my 2 cents.

Sokomine is right, colored woods do make for better looking houses, more so when built by players who create nice looking stuff.

She is also right about the MoreTrees' trees being too big. Most players only harvest what they can reach from the ground leaving "floating" trees; too few make the effort to harvest the whole tree and replant a sapling in its place.

As for more colored wood and textures of wood in the default game, why not use the dyes that are already there?

Just like wool, use the default dyes to stain the wood from the three default trees. Each tree could provide a different grained wood.

If you want even more variety of wood grains - add sand to the recipe (think "sandpaper") to extend the wood grain options.

Another idea would be to use the screwdriver (think "chisel") as a recipe item with wood to craft carved textures for table-top slabs, crown molding,... any variety of patterns in wood.

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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

by Linuxdirk » Post

I wish apple trees would be individual trees with own wood and own saplings and re-growing apples and not only regular trees with a chance of apples being generated.

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Re: Appletrees with their own wood?

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Linuxdirk wrote:I wish apple trees would be individual trees with own wood and own saplings and re-growing apples and not only regular trees with a chance of apples being generated.
In the screenshot I use a private mod from me and there the apple trees has their own saplings!
If you want I can present it into the forum.
But it doesn't generating something.

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She is also right about the MoreTrees' trees being too big. Most players only harvest what they can reach from the ground leaving "floating" trees; too few make the effort to harvest the whole tree and replant a sapling in its place.

As for more colored wood and textures of wood in the default game, why not use the dyes that are already there?

Just like wool, use the default dyes to stain the wood from the three default trees. Each tree could provide a different grained wood.
Good idea!
But then we have to create a lot of textures! =D
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Re: Apple trees with their own wood?

by philipbenr » Post

I originally thought the apple trees without apples were elm trees, and the apple trees were apple trees. I honestly think that we should have an elm, a birch, an apple, a pine, and a jungle tree for minetest_game, as they would really make the default game nicer, and much more appealing.

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Re: Apple trees with their own wood?

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philipbenr wrote:I originally thought the apple trees without apples were elm trees, and the apple trees were apple trees. I honestly think that we should have an elm, a birch, an apple, a pine, and a jungle tree for minetest_game, as they would really make the default game nicer, and much more appealing.
I think if we would have more trees, Minetest be much more interesting and beautiful.

My friend (jbb) thought about chestnut trees with ramifications at the top.

My next project is a pure birch tree mod(with textures from jbb again)!
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Re: Apple trees with their own wood?

by riff » Post

I think minetest should be uniqe so yeah, apple trees :-)
also apple is a hardwood so if this really does get added then maybe it could be better than normal wood for trees
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Re: Apple trees with their own wood?

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riff wrote:I think minetest should be uniqe so yeah, apple trees :-)
also apple is a hardwood so if this really does get added then maybe it could be better than normal wood for trees
Yes, good idea!
But I don't think that this comes into the default.
Now I don't really want it (but in my game).
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Re: Apple trees with their own wood?

by philipbenr » Post

It isn't really hard to change the "hardness" of wood, or any node, for that matter. It all comes down to a number change.

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Re: Apple trees with their own wood?

by paramat » Post

^ Please use a PM instead of bumping an old topic.

By the way Minetest used to only have one type of tree, the appletree, so nodes were named 'tree' and 'wood' and haven't been changed since because it would break too much stuff. So 'tree' = appletree, 'wood' = appletree wood.

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