360-degree signs

[v-rob]

I recently searched through all of the old pre-release mods for Minetest, and there was a lot, and when I say a lot, there were a LOT. Anyway, I saw found signs in some of the versions that faced the direction you placed them. They are very interesting. They should have support added to them.

Pic: http://imgur.com/a/qEDRy

I would give a Minetest version containing the signs, but I can't upload an attachment for some reason. I don't think it would help much, anyway.

[Joseph16]

That's so cool! Idk why they changed it. Also in 0.4.8 items dropped on the ground face you instead of turning they stare at you no matter what way you look

[the_raven_262]

That is a sprite, thats why it was changed.

[BBmine]

Cool idea. Wait, if you have a pic, doesn't that mean it's already there? (Or is that MineCr*ft?)

[the_raven_262]

Cool idea. Wait, if you have a pic, doesn't that mean it's already there? (Or is that MineCr*ft?)

It was removed in some older version.

[v-rob]

Cool idea. Wait, if you have a pic, doesn't that mean it's already there? (Or is that MineCr*ft?)

No. It's a super old pre-release (a 0.1. something version). I can't attach it for some reason.

[Stix]

@v-rob mcl2 viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16407&hilit=mineclone2 has 3d 360-degree signs (see page 21and 23 post's down)

[Blockhead]

(Please, everyone ignore spam (and massive necro) post above - if it's still there by the time you read this. And since it's already been necro'd, I figure I may as well add my own comment..)

I'm not sure how this was done at the time of the mod v-rob refers to - probably a separate mesh for each rotation, or maybe an entity. I don't have the source code available. Do you still have it, v-rob? (I find that unlikely)

This is possible in modern Minetest versions with a degrotate node and a library like Display Modpack. However, degrotate for mesh nodes was only implemented in 2021 by numzero.

What Mineclone2 has done since 2017, as Stix pointed out - this is the post referred to - is use different nodes for different rotations of the sign, and those nodes use different meshes, which are just rotations of the source model. Advtrains does a similar thing with a a lot of signals since it too predates the degrotate for meshes feature.

[v-rob]

Must have been a typo in the original post; this couldn't have been a mod since Minetest didn't support mods at all at that point, and I'm certain I knew this at the time of posting. Should probably read "prerelease versions". To be further accurate, "pre-GitHub versions" would be even better since they were released after a fashion. Hence, these signs were just implemented in the C++. (Although, the source for those early versions is still floating around somewhere...)

Interesting piece of trivia: you could place a block on top of a sign such that the sign was hidden inside the block. This suggests that signs were actually implemented as an entity-like of thing, similar to the rats in the same versions. By using obj:set_yaw() and player:get_look_horizontal(), you could make a similar entity-based sign in most versions of Minetest, although the modern degrotate solution is clearly superior.