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I propose the nyan cat block be either removed from the default mod, or renamed and retextured. The existence of this internet meme ingame dates Minetest considerably (nyan cat hasn't been relevant for several years). Although the original is somewhat humorous, placing it in the default game shows a marked lack of originality and is little more than pandering to the internet crowd. Such pandering isn't in itself bad, but only when it's done in a subtle manner. Having an entire block dedicated to a meme is not subtle.

Some possible replacements for the nyan cat:
-sunstone
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Actually, the nyan cat has been a community favorite for a long time. It fills me and many others with joy to find one. People have started teams on servers to find them and its brought up much discussion. I think the nyan is just a fun and creative aspect of minetest! It's also original to the point that I have never seen another sandbox game with the nyan cat in it (doesn't mean there isn't one).

Sunstone, what the heck would that be?
Fossilised skeletons... Sorry, but not as cool as rainbow pooping cats :)

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I found a nyan cat deep underground once, I never new that they appeared naturally until then.
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NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
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VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.

Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
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I liked the old mese, because you would be mining and you would see random blocks that say "MESE" on them It was fun. now mese is just another ore (except deep underground)
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InfinityProject wrote:Actually, the nyan cat has been a community favorite for a long time. It fills me and many others with joy to find one. People have started teams on servers to find them and its brought up much discussion. I think the nyan is just a fun and creative aspect of minetest! It's also original to the point that I have never seen another sandbox game with the nyan cat in it (doesn't mean there isn't one).

Sunstone, what the heck would that be?
Fossilised skeletons... Sorry, but not as cool as rainbow pooping cats :)
The nyancat is neither creative nor original. The meme has existed for years, and has nothing to do with Minetest. The fact that Minetest is the only sandbox game to have it is not a plus.

What I'm saying is that if nyancat is a "fixture" of the community, then we should replace it with a fixture which is unique and an original creation of Minetest, not an internet meme.

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10twenty4 wrote:
InfinityProject wrote:Actually, the nyan cat has been a community favorite for a long time. It fills me and many others with joy to find one. People have started teams on servers to find them and its brought up much discussion. I think the nyan is just a fun and creative aspect of minetest! It's also original to the point that I have never seen another sandbox game with the nyan cat in it (doesn't mean there isn't one).

Sunstone, what the heck would that be?
Fossilised skeletons... Sorry, but not as cool as rainbow pooping cats :)
The nyancat is neither creative nor original. The meme has existed for years, and has nothing to do with Minetest. The fact that Minetest is the only sandbox game to have it is not a plus.

What I'm saying is that if nyancat is a "fixture" of the community, then we should replace it with a fixture which is unique and an original creation of Minetest, not an internet meme.
Nyan cat is not original. Having it is.
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0gb.us wrote:
VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.

Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
Fun fact: MESE blocks are still in game; they just spawn lower (to make them harder to find). You can also craft a block out of 9 crystals.

To the OP, nyancats are a kind of treasure, and as said by InfinityProject, it brings joy to the player who finds them. If you don't like it, edit *YOUR* copy to remove them and/or create a mod to add your sunblock/fossils.
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kaeza wrote:
0gb.us wrote:
VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.

Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
Fun fact: MESE blocks are still in game; they just spawn lower (to make them harder to find). You can also craft a block out of 9 crystals.

To the OP, nyancats are a kind of treasure, and as said by InfinityProject, it brings joy to the player who finds them. If you don't like it, edit *YOUR* copy to remove them and/or create a mod to add your sunblock/fossils.
Fun fact: they don't have the original mese image, and without the test image, they are just another node. Mese was only special because it was an artefact left over from testing. Mese is no longer a leftover test object. While this may be seen as good or bad (I will remain neutral on this subject), the fact is, the mese that was a fixture of Minetest no longer exists.

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0gb.us wrote:
kaeza wrote:
0gb.us wrote:
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.

Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
Fun fact: MESE blocks are still in game; they just spawn lower (to make them harder to find). You can also craft a block out of 9 crystals.

To the OP, nyancats are a kind of treasure, and as said by InfinityProject, it brings joy to the player who finds them. If you don't like it, edit *YOUR* copy to remove them and/or create a mod to add your sunblock/fossils.
Fun fact: they don't have the original mese image, and without the test image, they are just another node. Mese was only special because it was an artefact left over from testing. Mese is no longer a leftover test object. While this may be seen as good or bad (I will remain neutral on this subject), the fact is, the mese that was a fixture of Minetest no longer exists.
That, and it's a lot rarer... I'm at -30000 right now, and I'm hardly finding any. It used to be almost every other block.
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0gb.us wrote:
kaeza wrote:
0gb.us wrote:
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.

Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
Fun fact: MESE blocks are still in game; they just spawn lower (to make them harder to find). You can also craft a block out of 9 crystals.

To the OP, nyancats are a kind of treasure, and as said by InfinityProject, it brings joy to the player who finds them. If you don't like it, edit *YOUR* copy to remove them and/or create a mod to add your sunblock/fossils.
Fun fact: they don't have the original mese image, and without the test image, they are just another node. Mese was only special because it was an artefact left over from testing. Mese is no longer a leftover test object. While this may be seen as good or bad (I will remain neutral on this subject), the fact is, the mese that was a fixture of Minetest no longer exists.
the texture is still in default/textures also mese exists but has a new look. The only thing changed was the look to make it fit with crystals. I checked github and found out that the original texture was removed pilzadam please add it back to legacy. Since iron apples aren't in legacy code. But mess is apart of Minetest HISTORY!
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kaeza wrote: add your sunblock/fossils
Fossils...sounds intresting. Maybe someone can do a mod with real fossils? That would require intresting textures.
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jojoa1997 wrote:the texture is still in default/textures also mese exists but has a new look. The only thing changed was the look to make it fit with crystals. I checked github and found out that the original texture was removed pilzadam please add it back to legacy. Since iron apples aren't in legacy code. But mess is apart of Minetest HISTORY!
You totally misunderstood me.

Mese still exists. But the version of mese that was a fixture no longer exists. That test image was what made mese what it was, a special part of the game. Now, it is just another node. But there's nothing wrong with it just being another node.

I don't mean that changing mese to a crystal was a bad thing. In fact, I'm completely neutral on that subject. What I do mean is that we can't take away the thing that made mese a fixture in Minetest, then continue calling it a fixture. By all means, change the image if you think it will make the game better. Forget its history, if we must. But when we do so, we need to recognize it for what it has become: not a fixture, not something special, but a plain old node, like everything else.

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by ds-2k » Post

0gb.us wrote: Fun fact: they don't have the original mese image, and without the test image, they are just another node. Mese was only special because it was an artefact left over from testing. Mese is no longer a leftover test object. While this may be seen as good or bad (I will remain neutral on this subject), the fact is, the mese that was a fixture of Minetest no longer exists.
If you use the "Minimal development test" game, mese has its original texture (and lava is also renewable). You also get some mese in your initial inventory.

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ds-2k wrote:
0gb.us wrote: Fun fact: they don't have the original mese image, and without the test image, they are just another node. Mese was only special because it was an artefact left over from testing. Mese is no longer a leftover test object. While this may be seen as good or bad (I will remain neutral on this subject), the fact is, the mese that was a fixture of Minetest no longer exists.
If you use the "Minimal development test" game, mese has its original texture (and lava is also renewable). You also get some mese in your initial inventory.
The minimal game is broken in several ways, due to the nature of what it is. It is merely a place to test things, so not everything there ever gets fixed. It's also trapped in the past. Sure, lava is renewable, but so many things there are just not playable.

You misunderstand me about the mese and it's original texture. I'm not in any way trying to get the original mese back. I'm trying to get people to not hypocritically claim "it is a part of Minetest history" right after having wiped the historical part of mese right out of the game.
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I have a map with a nyan cat within viewing distance of 0, 0, 0 (or the surface block above 0, 0, 0 anyway). At least, you can see it if you use the increased viewing distance.

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VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
AFFIRMATIVE!!! AFFIRMATIVE!!! KEEP IT!!! KEEP IT!!!
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0gb.us wrote:
VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.

Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
Nu-uhh! Mese is very very VERY VERY IMPORTANT. It creates the sturdiest tool in the default mod, it is used by other mods as form of craft item for items that are magical and other things similar! So, who cares if you hate nyan cat and mese being in Minetest. Maybe you only use iron pickaxes because you hate mese and punch nyan cats with swords because you hate them! And they hate you too! :P
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10twenty4 wrote:I propose the nyan cat block be either removed from the default mod, or renamed and retextured. The existence of this internet meme ingame dates Minetest considerably (nyan cat hasn't been relevant for several years). Although the original is somewhat humorous, placing it in the default game shows a marked lack of originality and is little more than pandering to the internet crowd. Such pandering isn't in itself bad, but only when it's done in a subtle manner. Having an entire block dedicated to a meme is not subtle.

Some possible replacements for the nyan cat:
-sunstone
-fossilized skeletons
Who cares if they are useless!?! Oh yeah, you and you only.
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- Old mese blocks can still be found deep underground
- You can just change the texture of mese back to the old one
- I think there is a mod to get the old mese back
- 9 mese crystals cannot be crafted back into a mese block
- It doesn't matter if nyan cat is useless (it's not) because why would you just remove it for no reason?
- if you don't like nyan cat just go around the map and find all of them and kill them
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I am completely neutral on this, having never found a nyan cat.

In retrospect, this post is kind of useless.

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12Me21 wrote:9 mese crystals cannot be crafted back into a mese block
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Mihobre wrote:
0gb.us wrote:
VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.

Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
Nu-uhh! Mese is very very VERY VERY IMPORTANT. It creates the sturdiest tool in the default mod, it is used by other mods as form of craft item for items that are magical and other things similar! So, who cares if you hate nyan cat and mese being in Minetest. Maybe you only use iron pickaxes because you hate mese and punch nyan cats with swords because you hate them! And they hate you too! :P
No. I don't hate mese or cats. In fact, I moved my tunnel project deeper in 0.4.5 to reach the new mese layer (it had previously been at the old mese layer), and I'm always on the lookout for my first cat.

Mese could be replaced with a harder or equally hard material. While mese does make the best picks NOW, that doesn't make it a fixture of the game.

I'm not a hater of mese or cats, I'm just a hater of bad logic.
12Me21 wrote:- Old mese blocks can still be found deep underground
- You can just change the texture of mese back to the old one
- I think there is a mod to get the old mese back
- 9 mese crystals cannot be crafted back into a mese block
- It doesn't matter if nyan cat is useless (it's not) because why would you just remove it for no reason?
- if you don't like nyan cat just go around the map and find all of them and kill them
NEW mese blocks can be found that deep. OLD mese blocks were removed from the game, and cannot be found anywhere.

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I thought that the crystals could not be crafted back into a block, but anyway, the new mese blocks and the old ones are mostly the same, except for the crystals and the texture.
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