10twenty4 wrote:I propose the nyan cat block be either removed from the default mod, or renamed and retextured. The existence of this internet meme ingame dates Minetest considerably (nyan cat hasn't been relevant for several years). Although the original is somewhat humorous, placing it in the default game shows a marked lack of originality and is little more than pandering to the internet crowd. Such pandering isn't in itself bad, but only when it's done in a subtle manner. Having an entire block dedicated to a meme is not subtle.
Some possible replacements for the nyan cat:
-sunstone
-fossilized skeletons
Who cares if they are useless!?! Oh yeah, you and you only.
I don't care that the nyan cat is useless, what I dislike is that it's an internet meme.
But clearly there's a lot of opposition to the idea, and by default they're rare enough that it doesn't bother me overly much, so whatevs.
12Me21 wrote:I thought that the crystals could not be crafted back into a block, but anyway, the new mese blocks and the old ones are mostly the same, except for the crystals and the texture.
It's the texture that made it the old test block that is, err, was, a part of Minetest history.
10twenty4 wrote:I propose the nyan cat block be either removed from the default mod, or renamed and retextured. The existence of this internet meme ingame dates Minetest considerably (nyan cat hasn't been relevant for several years). Although the original is somewhat humorous, placing it in the default game shows a marked lack of originality and is little more than pandering to the internet crowd. Such pandering isn't in itself bad, but only when it's done in a subtle manner. Having an entire block dedicated to a meme is not subtle.
Some possible replacements for the nyan cat:
-sunstone
-fossilized skeletons
Who cares if they are useless!?! Oh yeah, you and you only.
I don't care that the nyan cat is useless, what I dislike is that it's an internet meme.
But clearly there's a lot of opposition to the idea, and by default they're rare enough that it doesn't bother me overly much, so whatevs.
so we should get rid of something just cause it is famous
Coding;
1X coding
3X debugging
12X tweaking to be just right
12Me21 wrote:I thought that the crystals could not be crafted back into a block, but anyway, the new mese blocks and the old ones are mostly the same, except for the crystals and the texture.
It's the texture that made it the old test block that is, err, was, a part of Minetest history.
i say add it back in legacy as a texture and also add the code to legacy also
Coding;
1X coding
3X debugging
12X tweaking to be just right
I'm not saying we need to revert it to the old test item. I'm just saying we can't claim mese is some fixture of minetest that has been a part of its history from the beginning. Because that wasn't this mese. It was the old mese.
I believe the SHARDS (which AFAIK aren't used for anything yet) cannot be crafted back into crystals. Crystals can definitely be used to craft blocks, and I believe blocks can be broken back up into crystals.
prestidigitator wrote:I believe the SHARDS (which AFAIK aren't used for anything yet) cannot be crafted back into crystals. Crystals can definitely be used to craft blocks, and I believe blocks can be broken back up into crystals.
Exactly. I've got a pull request in to make it possible to craft shards back into crystals, but it hasn't been accepted yet. We'll see how it goes.
0gb.us wrote:
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.
Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
Fun fact: they don't have the original mese image, and without the test image, they are just another node. Mese was only special because it was an artefact left over from testing. Mese is no longer a leftover test object. While this may be seen as good or bad (I will remain neutral on this subject), the fact is, the mese that was a fixture of Minetest no longer exists.
Forward to 2017 and this discussion is interesting once again, as the Nyan Cat has been removed in Minetest 0.4.16 for legal reasons. See this post: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17101
However, reading from the discussion on GitHub, I understand that you can re-install it as a mod as long as you don't use it on a commercial server. Below is the Nyan Cat mod to download if you want it :
I totally agree with 10twenty4. I never got the slightest idea what this artefact was introduced for. I found several nc's in previous versions of MT (in most cases hanging in the air for apparently no sensible purpose) and each time I used my pickaxe to remove this landscape discord.
If there was a psychedelic mod or texture pack it would suit it I suppose, but now finding it does not yield any gain nor sense of achievement since it is not linked to any game.
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