Nether without Portals

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Nether without Portals

by Gambit » Post

This is something came to me the other week and held back knowing there a mod that supports this but after looking this more closely I've decided to talk about it.

The "Nether" (or whatever anyone wants to call it) is more so the idea of hell being in the center of the earth. The further you did down, the closer you are to getting the the molten core. Since Minetest has no 'center of the earth', the "Nether can be set to the lowest point of the map perhaps starting at -25000.
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by Casimir » Post

Thats quite similar to an idea I am thinking of for some time. But instead of a Nether equivalent there is a void. The more you dig down the more caves there are, the less stone, at some point there are only some flying islands left in the dark. The only light comes from strange creatures and plants. A place as beautiful as dangerous. And when you fall, you fall all the way.
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by proller » Post

another way: at -30500 stone melting from high temp, and you fall into huge lava ocean.
already here: viewtopic.php?id=7033

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by Gambit » Post

Here's a visual example in lol form.

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by paramat » Post

Wow awesome image, you made that?
Minetest's strength is it's vertical height, allowing a stack of flat realms (similar to many ancient cosmologies).
I find it more intersting and intuitive to have a hell realm physically located below, to give the option of either digging to it or acquiring special materials to make portals.
In comparison Minecraft plus Aether mod attempts stacked realms but is forced to do it through portals and loading new worlds.

Casimir good idea about caves expanding, that is easily done by altering my fissure mod.

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by Dopium » Post

Im all for stacked realms, this is a great idea as a simple start to see how well it actually works. Maybe something like a fissure cave network system with huge lava lake beds around the -25000 to -30000 mark. Great test area and far enough away for others that are not interested in stacked realms as it wont generate unless you go down there.
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by Melkor » Post

Casimir wrote:Thats quite similar to an idea I am thinking of for some time. But instead of a Nether equivalent there is a void. The more you dig down the more caves there are, the less stone, at some point there are only some flying islands left in the dark. The only light comes from strange creatures and plants. A place as beautiful as dangerous. And when you fall, you fall all the way.
I like this! :)

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by Kirito-Kun » Post

Very cool idea!And what about Special ores that you only can get in the nether?Like soulsand in minecraft

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by webdesigner97 » Post

Btw, why do we call it Nether? Why not just hell? :D

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by Gambit » Post

webdesigner97 wrote:Btw, why do we call it Nether? Why not just hell? :D
Cause "Nether" is more or less a borrowed name from Minecraft and concept name, so it can be used more universally. "Hell" on the other-hand may not fit for some parents who still believe its still a swear word to kids.

Personally, I think Minetest's "Nether" should have its own name rather than nether. Something like "The Core" or something relating to the center of the earth. After all users here often see Minecraft being about Magic and Minetest about Science. If people truly believe that, then they would omit all fictitious names from the game.
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by Neon » Post

Gambit wrote: After all users here often see Minecraft being about Magic and Minetest about Science. If people truly believe that, then they would omit all fictitious names from the game.
I second the motion

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Neon wrote:
Gambit wrote: After all users here often see Minecraft being about Magic and Minetest about Science. If people truly believe that, then they would omit all fictitious names from the game.
I second the motion
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by AndrOn » Post

Gambit's picture and your talk made me think about this:

http://www.bouletcorp.com/blog/2013/08/ ... g-voyage//

(sorry it's in french but enjoy the art!)

I think something like that could be very cool!
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by hassage » Post

Good Idea! And Aether can be in the sky.

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by hoodedice » Post

Evergreen wrote:
Neon wrote:
Gambit wrote: After all users here often see Minecraft being about Magic and Minetest about Science. If people truly believe that, then they would omit all fictitious names from the game.
I second the motion
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by Nachtholm » Post

Well, If we're taking ideas for names, then I suggest naming it the Inferno. From one standpoint it references myth like many scientific names do while instead being completely descriptive of the place itself. After all the realm would really be just a fiery inferno.
As for the "Aether" idea, I'd call it the Skylands. Might as well wrap in some of the best mods in the boards (with permission) while we're talking about features which are already done by mods.

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by cactuz_pl » Post

I agree with Nachtholm, "Inferno" is great name for "Bottomland".

My suggestions for the name of "Topland" are: "Vault", "Paradise", "Rapture", "Eternity", "Arcadia", "Dreamland";

(...) for "Bottomland": "Purgatory", "Abyss", "Oblivion", "Underworld", "Perdition";
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by rubenwardy » Post

AndrOn wrote:Gambit's picture and your talk made me think about this:

http://www.bouletcorp.com/blog/2013/08/ ... g-voyage//

(sorry it's in french but enjoy the art!)

I think something like that could be very cool!
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by D0431791 » Post

I hope The Nether can be an another dimension (e.g. nether.sqlite) .
Minetest can be better if
*better data structure for players and unstackable items like JSON
*multi sqlite files so that multi dimension can be easily implemented
*more convenient mob developing interface

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D0431791 wrote:I hope The Nether can be an another dimension (e.g. nether.sqlite) .
Don't bring that up here, that's not what this topic is about. That idea has already been discussed thoroughly elsewhere.
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by Forgelander » Post

Gambit wrote:Here's a visual example in lol form.

http://ubuntuone.com/1qT432rawgR4RzohyakQHx

....is that a banana i see?
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by Gambit » Post

Forgelander wrote:
Gambit wrote:Here's a visual example in lol form.

http://ubuntuone.com/1qT432rawgR4RzohyakQHx

....is that a banana i see? XD
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by veriaqa » Post

I'm supporting the idea of hell and heaven being in one world rather than accessed using portal.
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by Gambit » Post

veriaqa wrote:I'm supporting the idea of hell and heaven being in one world rather than accessed using portal.
I agree. I just don't like the name hell since hell really means burial ground.
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by LuxAtheris » Post

Oblivion is ok for hell and Arcardia for heaven
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