Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

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Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

by TheMCPenguin » Thu Jul 30, 2015 15:00

Hi! I recently found something with a mod I was using. When using the Direct3D9 renderer, you tend to get an annoying crash when looking up. If you can't use OpenGL because of a bad computer, like me, the you have to use Direct, yes? However, the Moonrealm mod changes that. I was using it earlier, and I found that I could look up! No crash! What's more, the Moonrealm mod changes the sky! I believe that the crash is caused by the renderer failing to load a complicated sky. So, my idea is thus: Minetest developers, please add a "Beautiful skies" selector to the settings. Therefore, if you are using Direct, then you can turn it off, and see the tops of your buildings in their full glory!


Sorry about the long topic, I just had to say that.
 

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Re: Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

by Krock » Fri Jul 31, 2015 07:57

TheMCPenguin wrote:caused by the renderer failing to load a complicated sky.

This means you have a weak graphics card or a bad driver.
Did you check for a newer graphics driver yet? Updating it might solve your problems.

You used Direct3D because it runs on almost every card, but this doesn't directly mean it's the better solution.

PS: Did you check out Direct3D 8.0 yet, if existing in your client?
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Re: Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

by TheMCPenguin » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:49

OK... firstly, no. I havn't checked Direct3D 8.0. And if it needs to be installed directly to computer, then forget it. I'm using a family shared computer, so if I tamper with the software too much, my dad will KILL me! (Not literally, of course! XD)

Secondly, Graphics Drivers cost money that I don't currently have. And again, if I change too much on the computer, or even try to... well; you know...

Lastly, because it runs on almost any card, I was posting that topic for anyone like me with a shoddy driver, that wants to see the sky.
 

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Re: Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

by TenPlus1 » Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:06

Graphics drivers should never cost money, they are typically avaialable for download from the vendor website free of charge... What graphics card are you currently using ?
 

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Re: Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

by Jordach » Fri Jul 31, 2015 14:06

TenPlus1 wrote:Graphics drivers should never cost money, they are typically avaialable for download from the vendor website free of charge... What graphics card are you currently using ?

I'll take Intel Intergrated for $500, TenPlus.
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Re: Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

by TenPlus1 » Fri Jul 31, 2015 17:21

Lol... my old laptop has Intel 915 integrated gfx and minetest works fine, although I AM using linux cause windows is a memory hog... If it supports OpenGL try switching to that instead of DirectX...
 

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Re: Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

by hoodedice » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:14

Penguin, I find it hard to believe that you have a card that does directX 9.0 but not openGL. It is most likely a driver problem. Post back your system configuration and we can try to help you out. We'll need your operating system (Windows, ubuntu, mac, etc), your graphics card, and the minetest version you are running. Graphic driver updates don't cost anything, but they cannot be installed without admin privileges.
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Re: Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

by TheMCPenguin » Sat Aug 01, 2015 14:07

hoodedice wrote:Penguin, I find it hard to believe that you have a card that does directX 9.0 but not openGL. It is most likely a driver problem. Post back your system configuration and we can try to help you out. We'll need your operating system (Windows, ubuntu, mac, etc), your graphics card, and the minetest version you are running. Graphic driver updates don't cost anything, but they cannot be installed without admin privileges.


Irrlicht log: Irrlicht Engine version 1.8.1
Irrlicht log: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)
Irrlicht log: Using renderer: Direct3D 9.0
Irrlicht log: Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller ialmrnt5.dll 6.14.10.4396
Irrlicht log: Currently available Video Memory (kB): 65536

That's what I get from the debug file. As a note, I can use OpenGL, but it lags too much to play.
 

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Re: Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

by Krock » Sat Aug 01, 2015 14:57

TheMCPenguin wrote:Irrlicht log: Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller ialmrnt5.dll 6.14.10.4396
Irrlicht log: Currently available Video Memory (kB): 65536

That's a very low-end integrated chip. Get a graphics card if possible or switch to another renderer.
Perhaps it's the same "memory hog" as 10+1 said.
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Re: Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

by hoodedice » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:40

The memory hog problem can indeed be fixed by switching to a linux distro, like lubuntu. However, that does not fix the cause - an underperforming graphics unit. You'll have to upgrade your PC a bit to play this game with OpenGL, the way it is meant to be played(tm)
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Re: Direct 3D 9.0 Crash !!!POSSIBLE FIX!!!

by ThePenguinTube » Wed Sep 28, 2016 18:28

OK, yeah, I'm back. (I forgot my password to my Gmail, soo... New login!) I got a new computer of my own, and got a new graphics card for it. Upgraded the CRAP out of this thing! XD And, works perfectly! Thanks for the help, everyone!
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