[Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

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[Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Deadlock » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:12

lower Crossroads
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Based on the thelowerroad mod,
this mod adds a configurable grid of lowerroads to the map.
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implemented features:
an option to raise the height of the anchor-points of the road at the start and end of every mapchunk
and an option to disable roadbuilding on the ocean.

currently working on:
more decorations: signs

planned features:
more decorations: fountains and little settlements(buildings provided by Otter),damaged sections and traps

to investigate:
possible interoperability with mg_villages



License: The MIT License (MIT)
Dependencies: default, stairs, farming
Optional Dependencies: lualandmg?

Compatibility with Mapgens: generally works with all mapgens which provide a heightmap via minetest.get_mapgen_object works better when a heatmap is provided as well.

Fully compatible with : v5, v7, flat, fractal, valleys, lualandmg
Compatible with slightly different behaviour with: v6

Git: https://github.com/Distributed-DeadLock/lowercrossroads

Download: https://github.com/Distributed-DeadLock ... master.zip
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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Deadlock » Sat Dec 16, 2017 14:04

I just checked the building examples, otter sent me.
they are nice, the style is matching the 2 hotter road types.
but they are to large.
the space where you can place buildings safely is quite limited;
nothing should be placed outside the current mapchunk(at least not on the X and Z axis)
and you need to consider the most extreme road shape possible, e.g.:
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road = grey / - / save house placing area = green

If i limit the maximum "sinspread" for the road to 27 (currently 40/should have been 37),
i can allow for 7x7 buildings with a 3 deep triangular area in front for "patios"/pathways/entrance-sections.
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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Deadlock » Sat Dec 16, 2017 15:23

azekill_DIABLO wrote:Love it! +1

thanks!

i just added the option to adjust the base height for the roads (affect only the anchor-points at the mapchunk borders)
 

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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by azekill_DIABLO » Sat Dec 16, 2017 15:49

They really seem to fit the terrain! you should try making an MG_villlage mod too, to see how you would make it fit the landscape!
 

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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Otter » Sat Dec 16, 2017 16:19

Deadlock wrote:I just checked the building examples, otter sent me.
they are nice, the style is matching the 2 hotter road types.
but they are to large.
the space where you can place buildings safely is quite limited;
nothing should be placed outside the current mapchunk(at least not on the X and Z axis)
and you need to consider the most extreme road shape possible, e.g.:
Image
road = grey / - / save house placing area = green

If i limit the maximum "sinspread" for the road to 27 (currently 40/should have been 37),
i can allow for 7x7 buildings with a 3 deep triangular area in front for "patios"/pathways/entrance-sections.


I thought they might be a bit big, but first I decided to go for as close to accurate as possible with the basic set of blocks.
I will start working on copies of the sort of building they put in smaller western towns so they will fit in a 7x7 grid. I will have to do a lot of it from memory since they were not built to the same standards and when towns died there was nothing to keep them going. A lot of ghost towns are just foundations now. The highways bypassed these town or the trees were cut or the fertility dropped because of lead mines.7x7 will do nicely, How tall can I go? Western towns rarely ever went over 2 stories and 3 stories where rare. But grain silos and water tower/cisterns could be a bit higher.

In a lot of towns in Texas, the old roads would wind around like crazy often with 90 degree turns as they weave around various plots of land and connect to bridges. When the road reaches a town the lines straighten out and the center of town is on a nice even grid. If you want an occasional large town, you could straighten a single road between two junctions and line it with buildings. That would kind of match with a lot of old towns I have driven through.
 

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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Otter » Sat Dec 16, 2017 16:39

A lot of buildings in the smaller Texas towns are now front steps, a square ring of stone that the wooden floor once rested on and a fireplace with a half fallen chimney. For every gathering of five or six houses and two small shops there are usually twenty of the time or fire burned houses on plots nearby. There is also a nice large graveyard on the highest, gentle, nearby slope. Add a silo, a small water tower, a tiny church and one odd 2 story brick building with an inexplicable sign and you have described half the small towns you will drive through if you get off the major highways. The two story brick building may or may not, still have a roof.

It is however hard to do old back road Texas right, without rusted tin roofs with a low slope, and barbed wire. I am sticking to the basic materials so until Paramat adds thatch, tin roofs and barbed wire, the time decayed ruins will be more accurate.
 

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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Deadlock » Sat Dec 16, 2017 21:17

i just implemented the option to disable building on water. the results are not 100% convincing, but i leave it in for now.

and thanks DIABLO, i'll keep that in mind, for future adventures in worldgen.

also glad, you can live with the limitations, Otter. The hight of the buildings are theoretically unlimited.
everything up to 6 blocks high can be placed on the voxelmanip-object without further testing;
for higher buildings, i either need to test before placing if they fit on the voxelmanip-object, or place them directly on the map after the road creation.
thanks for the insight in Texas towns.
If you want an occasional large town, you could straighten a single road between two junctions and line it with buildings.
unfortunately, that won't be possible, the road is directly tied to the sinus-function.
 

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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Gorilla » Thu Dec 28, 2017 16:25

This mod is excellent. Tried it wirh te mg_villages mod and it's passable.

Some minor tweaks may need to be done (by a human builder) to fix broken roads where the mg_village overwrites the terrain from this mod.
 

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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Deadlock » Thu Dec 28, 2017 17:16

Gorilla wrote:This mod is excellent. Tried it wirh te mg_villages mod and it's passable.
Some minor tweaks may need to be done (by a human builder) to fix broken roads where the mg_village overwrites the terrain from this mod.

Thank you.

I put investigation on possible interactions with mg_village on my list.
 

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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Deadlock » Thu Dec 28, 2017 17:39

azekill_DIABLO wrote:maybe ask for optionnal support to the author?

yes, that's probably the way to go.
 

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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Sokomine » Sat Dec 30, 2017 23:33

Deadlock wrote:I put investigation on possible interactions with mg_village on my list.

Some way of road building/connection of villages is also on my todo list. Just not sure when I'll be able to find the time. The general idea is to have a straight road with right angles that connects at least some villages. Currently the main road inside the village (moving in z direction) is often not well accessible due to not beeing connected to anything.

Areas inside a village can easily be detected, so roads might be able to react if they find one in rheir mapchunk.
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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Deadlock » Mon Jan 01, 2018 17:42

I got the flu, everything hurts right now. I'll report back once i've recovered.
Happy New Year, everyone.
 

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Re: [Mod]lower Crossroads [lowercrossroads]

by Otter » Mon Jan 01, 2018 22:05

Get well soon! Fluids, rest and a happy new year!
 


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