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Why is minetest blocked on windows 7 firewall? I don't want to bypass it , but i am curious.
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Windows firewall blocks every new app by default.jojoa1997 wrote:Why is minetest blocked on windows 7 firewall? I don't want to bypass it , but i am curious.
7:42 PM - Bauglio: I think if you go to staples you could steal firmware from a fax machine that would run better than win10 does on any platform
7:42 PM - Bauglio: so fudge the stable build
7:43 PM - Bauglio: get the staple build
7:42 PM - Bauglio: so fudge the stable build
7:43 PM - Bauglio: get the staple build
No. Why is it that when I install other apps the firewall doesn't block it? Or is it because minetest is compiled and not like normal apps?hoodedice wrote:Windows firewall blocks every new app by default.jojoa1997 wrote:Why is minetest blocked on windows 7 firewall? I don't want to bypass it , but i am curious.
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dude, everything has to be compiled in some wayjojoa1997 wrote:No. Why is it that when I install other apps the firewall doesn't block it? Or is it because minetest is compiled and not like normal apps?hoodedice wrote:Windows firewall blocks every new app by default.jojoa1997 wrote:Why is minetest blocked on windows 7 firewall? I don't want to bypass it , but i am curious.
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Even java, js and python programmes? They are just parsed and interpreted.sfan5 wrote:dude, everything has to be compiled in some wayjojoa1997 wrote:No. Why is it that when I install other apps the firewall doesn't block it? Or is it because minetest is compiled and not like normal apps?hoodedice wrote:
Windows firewall blocks every new app by default.
Sounds like he uses Win8 from his use of the word "app".
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I meant there might be some trusted source flag that minetest doesnt have. Also i use Windows 7, Ubuntu, and Android. Technically all programs are apps/applications so it is easier for me to use the word app due to Android use. Anyways I just want to know why windows feels threatened by people joining a LAN server.rubenwardy wrote:Even java, js and python programmes? They are just parsed and interpreted.sfan5 wrote:dude, everything has to be compiled in some wayjojoa1997 wrote: No. Why is it that when I install other apps the firewall doesn't block it? Or is it because minetest is compiled and not like normal apps?
Sounds like he uses Win8 from his use of the word "app".
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Windows is not secure, thats why they have to block a lot of (good) stuff to make it at least a bit more secure (although that doesnt help much).jojoa1997 wrote:I meant there might be some trusted source flag that minetest doesnt have. Also i use Windows 7, Ubuntu, and Android. Technically all programs are apps/applications so it is easier for me to use the word app due to Android use. Anyways I just want to know why windows feels threatened by people joining a LAN server.rubenwardy wrote:Even java, js and python programmes? They are just parsed and interpreted.sfan5 wrote: dude, everything has to be compiled in some way
Sounds like he uses Win8 from his use of the word "app".
I noticed that minecraft at school isn't blocked. Could that be because the settings in java allows for it.PilzAdam wrote:Windows is not secure, thats why they have to block a lot of (good) stuff to make it at least a bit more secure (although that doesnt help much).jojoa1997 wrote:I meant there might be some trusted source flag that minetest doesnt have. Also i use Windows 7, Ubuntu, and Android. Technically all programs are apps/applications so it is easier for me to use the word app due to Android use. Anyways I just want to know why windows feels threatened by people joining a LAN server.rubenwardy wrote:
Even java, js and python programmes? They are just parsed and interpreted.
Sounds like he uses Win8 from his use of the word "app".
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Java: Sure, it gets compiled to bytecode.rubenwardy wrote:Even java, js and python programmes? They are just parsed and interpreted.sfan5 wrote:dude, everything has to be compiled in some wayjojoa1997 wrote: No. Why is it that when I install other apps the firewall doesn't block it? Or is it because minetest is compiled and not like normal apps?
Sounds like he uses Win8 from his use of the word "app".
Javascript: Depends on the engine, but usually is compiled to something different too
Python: Compiled to bytecode by the interpreter
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BlockMen wrote:Who uses Windows firewall?!jojoa1997 wrote:Why is minetest blocked on windows 7 firewall? I don't want to bypass it , but i am curious.
Me. Of course.
But it does it to every other game I play, including BATTLEFIELD 2, NFS: Carbon, and smaller titles like minetest. Oh, and also MagicJack.
Sometimes, when it doesn't block a certain app, it is:
A. Either from Microsoft.
B. Some app that doesn't use the net.
C. Firefox.
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7:42 PM - Bauglio: I think if you go to staples you could steal firmware from a fax machine that would run better than win10 does on any platform
7:42 PM - Bauglio: so fudge the stable build
7:43 PM - Bauglio: get the staple build
7:42 PM - Bauglio: so fudge the stable build
7:43 PM - Bauglio: get the staple build
It is Microsoft's "protection" attempt, 7 prompts the user to allow or block internet access by any non Microsoft approved programs just like Vista but not as bad. From my knowledge 7 is a toned down Vista, where vista would ask for administrator privs with everything 7 only prompts when accessing internet or critical system files.
I would say 7 checks if the program is approved when accessing internet or critical system files if not then prompt for administrator rights. The theory is spyware and malware would need your "approval" to access internet or system files.
But yeah like everyone has said Windows is not secure, win firewall is as useful as the lock on your car, someone can just break the window.
I would say 7 checks if the program is approved when accessing internet or critical system files if not then prompt for administrator rights. The theory is spyware and malware would need your "approval" to access internet or system files.
But yeah like everyone has said Windows is not secure, win firewall is as useful as the lock on your car, someone can just break the window.
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Would launching Minetest with a java wrapper bypass the win7 firewall because the application would look like a java app? If that did work how would one do it for minetest? BTW dont tell me to search google because i have been doing that for the last half-hour. Nothing beats human feedback.
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If you use a java wrapper, the java.exe process would start minetest.exe and minetest.exe will still be blockedjojoa1997 wrote:Would launching Minetest with a java wrapper bypass the win7 firewall because the application would look like a java app? If that did work how would one do it for minetest? BTW dont tell me to search google because i have been doing that for the last half-hour. Nothing beats human feedback.
To me that is wrong both ways. One it should be used because some protection is better than none. And two why not used windows firewall that was bultin and does nothing bad, while also using another one too.BlockMen wrote:Calinou wrote:It is enabled by default.BlockMen wrote:
Who uses Windows firewall?!
No reason to use it Kinda every other firewall is better than MS's
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If you use two different firewalls on Windows.jojoa1997 wrote:To me that is wrong both ways. One it should be used because some protection is better than none. And two why not used windows firewall that was bultin and does nothing bad, while also using another one too.BlockMen wrote:Calinou wrote:
It is enabled by default.
No reason to use it Kinda every other firewall is better than MS's
You're gonna have a crash time
7:42 PM - Bauglio: I think if you go to staples you could steal firmware from a fax machine that would run better than win10 does on any platform
7:42 PM - Bauglio: so fudge the stable build
7:43 PM - Bauglio: get the staple build
7:42 PM - Bauglio: so fudge the stable build
7:43 PM - Bauglio: get the staple build
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You only need a firewall if your computer is connected directly to the internet (without a router)jojoa1997 wrote:To me that is wrong both ways. One it should be used because some protection is better than none. And two why not used windows firewall that was bultin and does nothing bad, while also using another one too.BlockMen wrote:Calinou wrote:
It is enabled by default.
No reason to use it Kinda every other firewall is better than MS's
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You mean, without a NAT. The vast majority of routers use NAT though.sfan5 wrote:You only need a firewall if your computer is connected directly to the internet (without a router)jojoa1997 wrote:To me that is wrong both ways. One it should be used because some protection is better than none. And two why not used windows firewall that was bultin and does nothing bad, while also using another one too.BlockMen wrote:
No reason to use it Kinda every other firewall is better than MS's
...Or if you want have a reliable way to block programs to connect (for certain reasons)Calinou wrote:You mean, without a NAT. The vast majority of routers use NAT though.sfan5 wrote:You only need a firewall if your computer is connected directly to the internet (without a router)jojoa1997 wrote: To me that is wrong both ways. One it should be used because some protection is better than none. And two why not used windows firewall that was bultin and does nothing bad, while also using another one too.
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