[Mod] Advanced Trains [advtrains] [2.1.4]

[Phoenixflo44]

I'm looking for the download for the trains. There were others of them.

[AccidentallyRhine]

DL link is on the posted site.

https://git.bananach.space/advtrains.gi ... master.zip

[orwell]

no, that's not the site phoenixflo meant.
mbb has made something wrong with the link, I'll tell him to correct it. But the git repos are at https://github.com/mbblp?tab=repositories

[Maverick2797]

Hi Orwell,
Have you had any luck with the node corruption bug yet?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ax180bui58hn8 ... 1.png?dl=0
I end up doing a lap of the tracks replacing the incorrect nodes manually every time i start the server
I'm running Windows MTG ver 0.4.17 and advtrains ver 1.3.8
also running tunnelmaker, unified_inventory, mesecons, pipeworks and advtrains_construction_train (https://git.bananach.space/advtrains_co ... train.git/)
Thnx

[Andrey01]

Hi, orwell. Are you planning to add cabels? It would be nice because some trains can not go without the connection with wires in real as passenger ones.

[orwell]

No, I didn't have luck with those corruption problems. I still can't reproduce it. But you must always make sure to delete both "advtrains" and "advtrains_ndb2", else it will do wondrous things...
cabels are long-term.

[orwell]

Hi everyone!
I am almost done with the new railway interlocking system. I still need to write some tutorials for it.
As soon as bananach.space is up again, I will push my latest version to the 'tss' branch there.
If you are interested, and once I've finished the tutorials, I would like you to help with beta-testing before I officially release it.
The next major milestone is then the new train automation system. It will be possible to define railway lines and assign trains to them, which then set their routes and stop at stations automatically according to a timetable.
Regarding the interlocking system, one feature that is still missing is that of distant signals, shunt signals and combination signals (distant and main signal in one). Currently all signals either show green or red. Aside, some small cosmetic fixes need to be done, like moving the passive component API to the core and adding LuaATC functions for route setting.

The attached screenshot shows the first fully interlocked station that ever existed in Minetest, built by me for testing purposes.

[gpcf]

Nice that the interlocking system is almost ready. I hope to be able to get bananach.space back up on Friday. This stuff really has to happen while I'm on holiday.

[orwell]

Nevermind... nice to hear from you again :)
I'll redo the privilege system once again based on our ideas in the hemiptera issue, then we can test it on the server.

[gpcf]

bananach.space is up again. It was down due to a kernel bug locking up cpu cores.

[orwell]

Ok, thanks
I'm sorry, i can't pish right now.

[mbb]

Just working on tram rails

[gpcf]

nice :)

[mbb]

first models with thee realcraft texturepack photographed in Vienna a few days ago by me and my brother

[orwell]

Looks nice! But I think that the turns will be the problem.
Nevertheless, I pushed the TSS branch. Happy testing...
I don't know when I get to writing the tutorials for it...

PS: Better not try it in your favorite train world, but a copy of it, I give no warranty that anything works after the update (though I've tried my best).

[mbb]

[quote="orwell"]Looks nice! But I think that the turns will be the problem.



if i would use the moreblocks saw It would work perfect

[caylee]

Are there any textures for busses?

I've build busses driving on transparent rails, but I didn't find a proper texture for the bus driving, so at the moment in my world there are trains driving on the street :/

[Phoenixflo44]

first models with thee realcraft texturepack photographed in Vienna a few days ago by me and my brother

Looks good.

You could not raise the normal rails and make gravel underneath. Like the slope?

and/or rails which one can use for the road or other reason?

I'll surprise you.

[gpcf]

These are for trams.

[Phoenixflo44]

These are for trams.

That's what I meant.

[daufinsyd]

Hey there,
Last week I tried to add some trains and ATC controllers in my world but the game became laggy although I was in singleplayer and my laptop has an i7-7700HQ, 16GB Ram and a gtx 1050Ti.
I also tried the LinuxWorks server which is so cool (even if the train themselves are also a little jerky).
And finally I checked trains for Minecraft which were smooth.

Just to know, do you think the "problem" is minetest core needing improvements for the entities, the use of lua instead of some low level language ?

by the way, you mod is really amazing, thank you for all you work ! :)

[Andrey01]

Hey there,
Last week I tried to add some trains and ATC controllers in my world but the game became laggy although I was in singleplayer and my laptop has an i7-7700HQ, 16GB Ram and a gtx 1050Ti.
I also tried the LinuxWorks server which is so cool (even if the train themselves are also a little jerky).
And finally I checked trains for Minecraft which were smooth.

Just to know, do you think the "problem" is minetest core needing improvements for the entities, the use of lua instead of some low level language ?

by the way, you mod is really amazing, thank you for all you work ! :)

Do you mean how are they laggy? Abrupt braking? If yes, so works all entities. I don`t know why it happens so. Really, does anybody know why they are so slow?

[orwell]

The advantage Minecraft currently has is client side prediction. In the Minecraft train mods, the client always knows where the train is going to go with which speed. Minetest's API currently only allows sending the current position, speed, direction and acceleration of individual entities, and user interactions need to be sent to the server first.
This might be solved with client side scripting, but this needs time to be developed.

However - how many trains did you deploy in your world? Because network latency is usually not a problem in singleplayer games.

[daufinsyd]

Okay I understand the jerky trains (when turning left/right) now.

Currently I have 6 trains but only one moving. I thought there was high CPU usage; I'll do some tests when I have time.

As far as I understand, the client couldn't "move" the train in order to have smooth movements without sending its changes to the server and waiting for its validation ?

[orwell]

Exactly.
Player presses a control -> client sends it to server(L) -> server indicates that the train should start moving -> server sends movement to client(L)
The steps with (L) are where network latency comes into effect. In singleplayer games, this should hardly be noticable, but it is on servers.
Regarding the computation efficiency of Lua advtrains, I have not much experience, gpcf can probably tell you better how it impacts performance. What I know is that on the Linuxworks server we have about 100 trains running simultaneously, and the performance loss is (still) acceptable compared to the perfomance loss caused by large factories of certain people, which employ thousands of item entities.