Wuzzy wrote:So. It should be common knowledge by now that:
1. GitHub is owned by Microsoft
2. Minecraft is owned by Microsoft
3. Minetest is (kinda) like Minecraft
4. Minetest is hosted on GitHub
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Hamlet wrote:To be completely honest, the de-facto lead core developer (Paramat) does not even care if Minetest is available in languages other than his own
rubenwardy wrote:I support moving to another git host, I don't know what the best alternative would be though
rubenwardy wrote:Hamlet wrote:To be completely honest, the de-facto lead core developer (Paramat) does not even care if Minetest is available in languages other than his own
Paramat is not the lead core developer, defacto or not. I consider him the defacto lead of minetest game, simple because everyone else is burnt out from contributing to it
texmex wrote:Instead of blackpilling the community with defeatism we should discuss viable solutions to the requirements derived from the current infrastructure, possibly even improvements. The opinions on migrating probably depends on the viability of the alternative, not the other way around. What are some additional requirements?
Hamlet wrote:[It just takes to close/archive/whatever the GitHub repository and move the actual development there.
Minetest is competition to Minecraft
Gitlab is… you guessed it… also VC funded! That implies broadly the same incentives in business as Github (strive for monopoly, get acquired etc). Moving to Gitlab may end up being as a bad move as using Github, or worse. Why becoming dependent on another landlord?
rubenwardy wrote:I support moving to another git host, I don't know what the best alternative would be though
texmex wrote:Gitlab is… you guessed it… also VC funded! That implies broadly the same incentives in business as Github (strive for monopoly, get acquired etc).
Yvanhoe wrote:I really considered moving from github when it was acquired but that's the strength of git: it does not care who your provider is. I have a very lightweight (gitolite) self-hosted server so when github decides to go down, I can easily continue providing access to all my code, history and branch.
Yvanhoe wrote:I am one of these people who remember MS from 15 years ago and I am never going to trust them for anything ever.
Yvanhoe wrote:While I agree right now that MS would be shooting themselves in the foot by shutting down MT
Yvanhoe wrote:but also Microsoft has every right to decide which projects it refuses to host.
Yvanhoe wrote:The most likely to me is that Github will slowly be integrated more and more into the MS ecosystem and will be harder and harder to use independently.
Hamlet wrote:Before starting to discuss about this or that alternative solution, it would make sense to know if the core developers are willing to leave GitHub.
Hamlet wrote:We can spend hours, weeks and months debating: [...]
Wuzzy wrote:- If yes, does the backup actually work?
sfan5 doesn't want an issue tracker at all and wants IRC discussion only
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