It's 2023 and the loading times are still terrible

[MCL]

It's 2023 and MineTest games are still more laggy and unstable than MineCraft Alpha 1.0 (released in 2010).
MineTest in its current state is a relic of the early 2010s and would have to be rewritten from scratch to even come close to even the Indev and Infdev versions of MC.

[Festus1965]

It's 2023 and MineTest games are still more laggy and unstable than MineCraft Alpha 1.0 (released in 2010).

I don't know MineCraft 1.0 but compare to the starting time with 0.4.14 for me,
my server 5.6.1 is running over 45 days and only restarted as of OTHER issues.
And compare MineCraft with Minetest be more specific as when I point on Minetest, the base for me is engine and mtg as that is what counts to point on compare to MineCraft also without any addons or plugins.

So far both games I have running here Minetest 5.6.1 and minecraft 1.20.2 are running without a crash.

Also I have no problem with a lag in both games as long you are using the right hardware, with knowledge about using and set the OS and game right.

So I can't agree anyway.

And there is one clear advantage from minetest over minecraft:
As I have both server running, minetest is FAR less impact : both started after a server restart,
* minecraft Asia Thailand sum 34 + 33 hours of CPU in 2 threads
* minetest AsiaThailand sum just 7:30 + 7 hours
where on minetest is always one afk player, so mt impact is near 5 times lower.
That mean less energy usage, more mtserver on each hardware possible.

And about the lag you have to compare same empty basic installation, as most lag in mt comes from some hard mods that I have tested so often and I have no doubt about that anymore.
Also a lack of knowledge from admins to also tune the OS and mt itself for better usage of environment.

[Unacceptium_core]

@mcl i full agree (as an android player)

[Nininik]

It's 2023 and MineTest games are still more laggy and unstable than MineCraft Alpha 1.0 (released in 2010).
MineTest in its current state is a relic of the early 2010s and would have to be rewritten from scratch to even come close to even the Indev and Infdev versions of MC.

yep true, i play on android and windows 8

[j8810kkw]

I am still okay with all the Minetest thing going around here, because frankly I use all this just for LAN and don't go out on servers that much. I will try to see for myself what is going on around here

[Astrobe]

It's 2023 and MineTest games are still more laggy and unstable than MineCraft Alpha 1.0 (released in 2010).
MineTest in its current state is a relic of the early 2010s and would have to be rewritten from scratch to even come close to even the Indev and Infdev versions of MC.

If it is that bad, then just play MineCraft Alpha then. Or one of the many Minecraft clones that are not based on Minetest, of course, since it is not up to your standards.

[Unacceptium_core]

since it is not up to your standards

i did compare some popular block games' loading times- vanilla (default game/no mods)
my device is Honor rky-lx1 (x7) Android 12. google it for specs.

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game           version    load.time  fps
minecrap-      1.20.50.23 1:2         avg 27
(AN1.com)      beta
survivalcraft- 2.23       0:11        avg 60
(play.goog..)  SC2
Minetest-      5.7.0 off. 8:36        max 18
(f-droid.org)  5.0>
Multicrap      2.0.3 NaN  3:13        avg 19
(LuckyPatcher) (AN1.com)

scoreboard
1-SC2 11 secs
2-MC 122 secs
3-MLC 193 secs
4-MT 516 secs
note that its not 100% and theres about 2-4 sec possible difference than real.

edit: i did fresh install for all these games above. that means every setting is default,and no cache saved for the game to make loading faster.
if theres cache saved in game, MT loads about the same time of MC, it takes about one minute or less.

[MCL]

It's 2023 and MineTest games are still more laggy and unstable than MineCraft Alpha 1.0 (released in 2010).
MineTest in its current state is a relic of the early 2010s and would have to be rewritten from scratch to even come close to even the Indev and Infdev versions of MC.

If it is that bad, then just play MineCraft Alpha then. Or one of the many Minecraft clones that are not based on Minetest, of course, since it is not up to your standards.

I've been working on my own voxel engine since October of 2022.

[cHyper]

It's 2023 and MineTest games are still more laggy and unstable than MineCraft Alpha 1.0 (released in 2010).
MineTest in its current state is a relic of the early 2010s and would have to be rewritten from scratch to even come close to even the Indev and Infdev versions of MC.

If it is that bad, then just play MineCraft Alpha then. Or one of the many Minecraft clones that are not based on Minetest, of course, since it is not up to your standards.

I've been working on my own voxel engine since October of 2022.

any videos where we can see your voxel engine in action?

[runs]

Minetest is very stable. Like a rock. It has never crashed on me. I mean because of the engine.

The developers have always been very careful not to introduce instabilities. In fact, I would have always preferred a more "crazy" Minetest with new features and things and a little less stable.

The slowness of Minetest in game is relative, it depends on the game. My Samz game is made to be a sparkle. In servers it is slower than Minecraft.

The developers have recently improved the engine to make it faster. It is a pending task to optimize and clean the code to increase the speed.

Minecraft is fast in vanilla, but if you add mods it is slow. The same as Minetest, mods are made by anyone, so you don't know their optimization.

What Minetest is slow is in servers. Minecraft (without mods) by default is faster. Minetest developers should take a look at this, or hire someone to optimize it.

The loading times are also relative. Minecraft is a monolithic game (mods are not natively supported), Minetest is a game platform. They are different concepts.

[Unacceptium_core]

Minetest is very stable. Like a rock.

disagree

[Mantar]

No, he's right. Mods and games, especially if they're poorly written, can crash a lot, but the engine itself rarely does.

[runs]

Minetest is very stable. Like a rock.

disagree

Before talking for the sake of talking, please get informed first. You have no idea.

[Festus1965]

just have a luck into server-list :
* how can a unstable system run for 3.6 years ?
** metis2.duckdns.org:30001 1/25 0/2 0.4.16, tutorial Metis - Tutorial Minetest-Server Tutorial - Germany Cre Pwd 3.6y / 5.7y
** minetestgermany.duckdns…:30004 0/25 0/2 0.4.16, LegendofMinetest Metis - Legend of Minetest Minetest-Server - Legend of Minetest - Germany Dmg PvP Pwd 3.6y / 5.5y

and there are more with 300 days and below ...
unstable is a server that crash several times a day,
BUT please check out why.

Most is mods

[Unacceptium_core]

i am playing mobile version, i does not have PC. before 5.6 almost every bigger game crashed instead of loading. 5.8 is the first version, where mineclone is running lagless for me, but MC ran perfect all time (for comparison).

[Nininik]

I can't run minectrone on my android nor my windows laptop, haven't tried the pc.

[Mantar]

Oh well yeah, ram limitations on mobile can cause larger games to crash, as your device runs out of memory. Not really something Minetest can help, your device will close the app when it hits the ceiling.